Tobin wrote:No. That is a ridiculous concept. Is every piece of bacteria going to be resurrected and what would be the point of that? And if that were true, as I pointed out to Quasi, we would baptize apes and whales then.
I'm beginning to think that you have an uncomfortable prejudice against non-humans, Tobin. Aren't we all God's creatures?
Of course, and each fills its role. However, I see little need to resurrect lower lifeforms and the scriptures don't seem to indicate there is any need for it either. The only engineered species were adamites and their descendants. No other species were engineered and designed for this eternal purpose as we are (being descendants of the adamites).
Quasimodo wrote:Maybe humans are the only ones that require redemption. Everything else gets a free pass for being without sin.
There are no free passes.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:Of course, and each fills its role. However, I see little need to resurrect lower lifeforms and the scriptures don't seem to indicate there is any need for it either. The only engineered species were adamites and their descendants. No other species were engineered and designed for this eternal purpose as we are (being descendants of the adamites).
Gosh, have you mentioned to God that not all life forms need to be resurrected? I'm sure he his hanging on your every word and can only act until he hears from you.
I hope that you are confident in your opinions and truly know the mind of God. Otherwise, you're in deep doodoo. I think speaking for God without prior permission could be an unpardonable sin.
Tobin wrote:There are no free passes.
Please pass this on to God. He may have been mistaken.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Tobin wrote:Of course, and each fills its role. However, I see little need to resurrect lower lifeforms and the scriptures don't seem to indicate there is any need for it either. The only engineered species were adamites and their descendants. No other species were engineered and designed for this eternal purpose as we are (being descendants of the adamites).
Gosh, have you mentioned to God that not all life forms need to be resurrected? I'm sure he his hanging on your every word and can only act until he hears from you.
Again, as I've repeatedly pointed out to you, there is no precedent in the scriptures. And from the Mormon perspective, to be resurrected and received eternal life - all must be baptized. As you should know, Mormons go to a lot of effort to provide this opportunity for the dead. And Mormons simply do not baptize apes and whales. So I'm pretty confident that my view is pretty accurate. All you respond with is ridiculous assertions that every piece of bacteria (and other life-forms) must be resurrected which doesn't pass the laugh test.
Quasimodo wrote:I hope that you are confident in your opinions and truly know the mind of God. Otherwise, you're in deep doodoo. I think speaking for God without prior permission could be an unpardonable sin.
Why don't you ask him and find out and let use all know what he says. I draw my views from the scriptures and what as been revealed in the modern era. It is both consistent with the scriptures and what we know about the natural evolution of life on this planet.
Quasimodo wrote:
Tobin wrote:There are no free passes.
Please pass this on to God. He may have been mistaken.
Again, that has no basis in scripture nor is it part of the Mormon perspective. You are welcome to believe anything you want, but I have little interest in non-sense like that.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:Again, that has no basis in scripture nor is it part of the Mormon perspective. You are welcome to believe anything you want, but I have little interest in non-sense like that.
As you may have gleaned by now, I dislike long posts (few read them). Shorter is better.
The major topic of this board is whether or not the Mormon perspective has any validity. As an aside to that, another question is whether or not your claims to an actual, personal relationship with God have any validity or are they just "non-sense"?
There are many scriptures from many different religions. Using the particular scriptures that you believe in as a defense is a little shallow.
If you are actually speaking for God, I understand your hubris. Otherwise, give a thought to the fact that you might be wrong.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Sounds disappointing to consider the thought of no animal resurrections. I've had dreams of dying and seeing all my dogs coming to greet me and show me around. It was just like I had been at work that day to them. They weren't even upset it took that long. The idea of having my dogs back someday certainly appeals to me.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Tobin wrote:Again, that has no basis in scripture nor is it part of the Mormon perspective. You are welcome to believe anything you want, but I have little interest in non-sense like that.
As you may have gleaned by now, I dislike long posts (few read them). Shorter is better.
The major topic of this board is whether or not the Mormon perspective has any validity. As an aside to that, another question is whether or not your claims to an actual, personal relationship with God have any validity or are they just "non-sense"?
There are many scriptures from many different religions. Using the particular scriptures that you believe in as a defense is a little shallow.
If you are actually speaking for God, I understand your hubris. Otherwise, give a thought to the fact that you might be wrong.
And I dislike pointless posts that do not discuss the Mormon perspective and that inject irrelevancies. Please stick to the scriptures and revealed Mormon doctrines - or find something else to do. Your pejorative remarks and fruitless assertions based on seemingly nothing other than your overactive imagination is meaningless to me. I simply don't care.
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"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:And I dislike pointless posts that do not discuss the Mormon perspective and that interject irrelevancies. Please stick to the scriptures and revealed Mormon doctrines - or find something else to do. Your pejorative remarks and fruitless assertions based on seemingly nothing other than your overactive imagination is meaningless to me. I simply don't care.
The point of this board is to discuss all perspectives. Mormon or otherwise. The things that you find "irrelevancies" are often found very relevant to some (or most) of the people on this board.
There are many scriptures to read and ponder. Which ones do you think I should stick to?
I don't believe that any Mormon doctrines are "revealed". I think suggesting that I find "something else to do" is a violation of board rules.
It's very amusing that a person who claims to have two way conversations with God would characterize my comments as "overactive imagination".
You're overheating, Tobin. I can see the steam drifting out of your posts. Have a glass of wine.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Quasimodo wrote: I think speaking for God without prior permission could be an unpardonable sin.
Perhaps the degree of unpardonableness has a direct relationship with the total amount of pre-adamite DNA we may possess. With a totally Mormon DNA you must therefore be perfect. With a bit of a wild and crazy side, you get more leeway.
Anyway, this is just a speculation. Don't quote it chapter and verse without first running it past the correlation committee.
