Mormonthink is not a trustworthy site. Its author has been excommunicated from the Church for apostasy.
So? (Nice try at well poisoning, and no true Scotsman falacies, but do you have anything substantive?)
How does that make it not trustworthy? Plus it does not have one author, rather a team of contributors and editors, with the managing editor having changed over the years.
I happen to know and fish regularly with the current managing editor - and he resigned, wasn't exed; you are thinking of one of the previous editors.
Please show where the content I linked is wrong....?
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.
Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality. ~Bill Hamblin
Mormonthink is not a trustworthy site. Its author has been excommunicated from the Church for apostasy.
A Catholic is investigating the LDS church. The investigator goes to his priest with questions about the great apostasy. The priest does not address the issues brought up but simply says that the LDS church is an untrustworthy church as defined by the Catholic church.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
If you were interested in the Catholic church. Would you go to an excommunicated former Catholic Priest? I'm glad to see that you go to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion for facts about the Jewish faith.
I would evaluate all sources, but relying solely on Chevrolet to tell you about the quality of Chevrolets is so myopic that it is down right stupid. Any smart person would seek out a variety of objective sources, and those both friendly and not friendly.
The church has been less than honest about its history, mormonthink has been more truthful, presenting both sides and including sources. You might not agree with their conclusions, but they do a better job about presenting the facts.
You are turning into a caricature.
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.
Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality. ~Bill Hamblin
Gunnar wrote:By far the most likely and obvious answer is that Joseph Smith never had such "gold plates" in the first place, and made up the story of how he came into possession of them and had to give them back to God when he was through with them.
Except that we have many witnesses to the fact that he had the plates.
Nevertheless, that is still the most likely and obvious answer, given the known problems with the Book of Mormon narrative, such as the lack of confirming archeological evidence, the absolutely ridiculous Book of Ether and its Jaredite barges and literal acceptance of the Tower of Babel story as real history. Also, the fact that on the only known affidavits of the Book of Mormon witnesses, all the signatures are in Oliver Cowdery's handwriting doesn't lend confidence to the veracity of their testimony.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
SteelHead wrote:I would say in terms of historical accuracy mormonthink has shown itself more trustworthy than LDS.org
Absolutely.
CCC should also consider the fact that MormonThink links to LDS.org often. I am not aware of a single link that LDS.org maintains to MormonThink.
It's almost like LDS.org doesn't want the faithful to avail themselves of the useful and accurate information to be found on MormonThink.
Sort of like North Korea or China cutting off, or discouraging citizens from using, links to outside information on the internet that does not conform to the Party line and its propaganda.
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
The CCC wrote:If you were interested in the Catholic church. Would you go to an excommunicated former Catholic Priest?
Yes. Why would one not want to speak to a former member when evaluating a group they may join? I wish more people would search for critical materiel on the internet when evaluating some things like health product claims, so why not do the same with religion?
Gunnar wrote:By far the most likely and obvious answer is that Joseph Smith never had such "gold plates" in the first place, and made up the story of how he came into possession of them and had to give them back to God when he was through with them.
Except that we have many witnesses to the fact that he had the plates.
All were believers who let Joseph dictate the circumstances of the event in which they may think they saw plates. We also have other witness statements that create doubt real plates were viewed.
