LittleNipper wrote:I don't really wish to talk to you...
Understandable, seeing as how I'm the one who's criticized you for posting numerous falsehoods, like your claim that Anton LeVay recanted on his deathbed.
LittleNipper wrote:Atheists have every reason to TWIST the truth or hide it (if not more so).
If this is truly how atheists behave, then why do you find it necessary to spread falsehoods about them? Why not let their words speak for themselves?
LittleNipper wrote:Christians are held by a higher standard.
I find that very hard to believe. Are you truly a "Christian"? Or are you really an atheist sock puppet who's trying to make "Christians" look dishonest? If so, you're doing an excellent job.
LittleNipper wrote:The reality is that more than likely it was a nurse or some other attendant that spilled the beans.
Then give me a name, a date, and a context to back it up. Were there any witnesses? What was LeVay's mental state when he made his supposed recantation?
HINT: LeVay died of acute pulmonary edema; speech is impossible in the acute stages of pulmonary edema.
LittleNipper wrote:It is TOTAL irony, if not GOD's JUDGMENT that LaVey died in a CATHOLIC hospital and not an Atheistic/Satanic institution (If any such exist, Fact).
This has nothing to do with the fact that you were caught perpetuating a well-known lie about him.
LittleNipper wrote:AND the simple truth is that O'Hair had become VERY comfy/wealthy (Fact) being the spokesperson for Atheists.
Again, this has nothing to do with the fact that you were caught spreading a well-known lie about Anton LeVay. Nor does it have anything to do with the fact that the video you posted actually painted a rather positive portrait of O'Hair, which you would have known had you bothered to watch it.
LittleNipper wrote:Odd, she is RECORDED saying that believers made her feel uneasy/uncomfortable/gave her the willies (Fact) to say the least. Atheists also seem to have notoriously foul mouths (Fact), also demonstrated on tape. But the telling thing is that it was those O'Hair trusted who did her in (Fact). She didn't even die a very old woman (but a most miserable one).
See above.
LittleNipper wrote:I believe that either she accepted Christ at some point in her life (which she denies), or at some point before she was murdered (we don't know), or she is now suffering in Hell ---- and realizes the TRUTH.
See above.
LittleNipper wrote:As for LaVey, he also died at a rather young age (FACT). AND what has been attributed to him by someone there is only that he was not a very happy man at death, but a scared one. And unless LaVey made a decision at some point in his life for Christ, he is now an for all eternity in Hell. And that is exactly where both he and O'Hair seem to have desired to be.
See above.
LittleNipper wrote:So don't blame God for your own eventual destination. You have a choice, as did they. God is not mocked.
What does this have to do with the fact that you've been repeatedly called out for posting numerous falsehoods in this and other threads?
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I pray thee, sir, forgive me for the mess. And whether I shot first, I'll not confess. --Han Solo, from William Shakespeare's Star Wars
So says a pot that thinks it's not black. A mother who cuts off contact with her own son only because he becomes a Christian and obviously didn't mind using homosexuality as s slur... Or was that missed from the tape?
Symptoms of pulmonary edema may include: •Coughing up blood or bloody froth •Difficulty breathing when lying down (orthopnea) -- you may notice the need to sleep with your head propped up or use extra pillows •Feeling of "air hunger" or "drowning" (if this feeling wakes you from sleep and causes you to sit up and try to catch your breath, it's called "paroxysmal nocturnal dyspnea") •Grunting, gurgling, or wheezing sounds with breathing •Inability to speak in full sentences because of shortness of breath
Other symptoms may include: •Anxiety or restlessness •Decrease in level of alertness (consciousness) •Leg swelling •Pale skin •Sweating (excessive)
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1 And Jehovah sendeth Nathan unto David, and he cometh unto him, and saith to him: `Two men have been in one city; One rich and one poor;
2 The rich hath flocks and herds very many;
3 And the poor one hath nothing, Except one little ewe-lamb, Which he hath bought, and keepeth alive, And it groweth up with him, And with his sons together; Of his morsel it eateth, And from his cup it drinketh, And in his bosom it lieth, And it is to him as a daughter;
4 And there cometh a traveller to the rich man, And he spareth to take Of his own flock, and of his own herd, To prepare for the traveller Who hath come to him, And he taketh the ewe-lamb of the poor man, And prepareth it for the man Who hath come unto him.'
5 And the anger of David burneth against the man exceedingly, and he saith unto Nathan, `Jehovah liveth, surely a son of death [is] the man who is doing this,
6 and the ewe-lamb he doth repay fourfold, because that he hath done this thing, and because that he had no pity.'
7 And Nathan saith unto David, `Thou [art] the man! Thus said Jehovah, God of Israel, I anointed thee for king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;
8 and I give to thee the house of thy lord, and the wives of thy lord, into thy bosom, and I give to thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if little, then I add to thee such and such [things].
9 `Wherefore hast thou despised the word of Jehovah, to do the evil thing in His eyes? Uriah the Hittite thou hast smitten by the sword, and his wife thou hast taken to thee for a wife, and him thou hast slain by the sword of the Bene-Ammon.
10 `And now, the sword doth not turn aside from thy house unto the age, because thou hast despised Me, and dost take the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be to thee for a wife;
11 thus said Jehovah, Lo, I am raising up against thee evil, out of thy house, and have taken thy wives before thine eyes, and given to thy neighbour, and he hath lain with thy wives before the eyes of this sun;
12 for thou hast done [it] in secret, and I do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.'
13 And David saith unto Nathan, `I have sinned against Jehovah.' And Nathan saith unto David, `Also -- Jehovah hath caused thy sin to pass away; thou dost not die;
14 only, because thou hast caused the enemies of Jehovah greatly to despise by this thing, also the son who is born to thee doth surely die.'
15 And Nathan goeth unto his house, and Jehovah smiteth the lad, whom the wife of Uriah hath born to David, and it is incurable;
16 and David seeketh God for the youth, and David keepeth a fast, and hath gone in and lodged, and lain on the earth.
17 And the elders of his house rise against him, to raise him up from the earth, and he hath not been willing, nor hath he eaten with them bread;
18 and it cometh to pass on the seventh day, that the lad dieth, and the servants of David fear to declare to him that the lad is dead, for they said, `Lo, in the lad being alive we spake unto him, and he did not hearken to our voice; and how do we say unto him, The lad is dead? -- then he hath done evil.'
19 And David seeth that his servants are whispering, and David understandeth that the lad is dead, and David saith unto his servants, `Is the lad dead?' and they say, `Dead.'
20 And David riseth from the earth, and doth bathe and anoint [himself], and changeth his raiment, and cometh in to the house of Jehovah, and boweth himself, and cometh unto his house, and asketh and they place for him bread, and he eateth.
21 And his servants say unto him, `What [is] this thing thou hast done? because of the living lad thou hast fasted and dost weep, and when the lad is dead thou hast risen and dost eat bread.'
22 And he saith, `While the lad is alive I have fasted, and weep, for I said, Who knoweth? -- Jehovah doth pity me, and the lad hath lived;
23 and now, he hath died, why [is] this -- I fast? am I able to bring him back again? I am going unto him, and he doth not turn back unto me.'
24 And David comforteth Bath-Sheba his wife, and goeth in unto her, and lieth with her, and she beareth a son, and he calleth his name Solomon; and Jehovah hath loved him,
25 and sendeth by the hand of Nathan the prophet, and calleth his name Jedidiah, because of Jehovah.
26 And Joab fighteth against Rabbah of the Bene-Ammon, and captureth the royal city,
27 and Joab sendeth messengers unto David, and saith, `I have fought against Rabbah -- also I have captured the city of waters;
28 and now, gather the rest of the people, and encamp against the city, and capture it, lest I capture the city, and my name hath been called upon it.'
29 And David gathereth all the people, and goeth to Rabbah, and fighteth against it, and captureth it;
30 and he taketh the crown of their king from off his head, and its weight [is] a talent of gold, and precious stones, and it is on the head of David; and the spoil of the city he hath brought out, very much;
31 and the people who [are] in it he hath brought out, and setteth to the saw, and to cutting instruments of iron, and to axes of iron, and hath caused them to pass over into the brick-kiln; and so he doth to all the cities of the Bene-Ammon; and David turneth back, and all the people, to Jerusalem.
Zodacare od Zodameranu, asapeta sibesi butamona das surezodasa Tia balatanu. Odo cicale Qaa, od Ozodazodama pelapeli IADANAMADA!
(English)
O ye pleasures which dwell in the first air, ye are mighty in the parts of the Earth, and execute the judgment of the mighty. Unto you it is said: Behold the face of Satan, the beginning of comfort, whose eyes are the brightness of the stars, which provided you for the government of the Earth, and her unspeakable variety; furnishing you a power of understanding to dispose all things according to the providence of Him that sitteth on the Infernal Throne, and rose up in the Beginning saying: The Earth, let her be governed by her parts; and let there be division in her; the glory of her may be always drunken and vexed in itself. Her course, let it run with the fulfillment of lust; and as an handmaiden, let her serve them. One season, let it confound another; and let there be no creature upon or within her the same. All her numbers, let them differ in their qualities; and let there be no creature equal with another. The reasonable creatures of the Earth, and Men, let them vex and weed out one another; and their dwelling places, let them forget their names. The work of Man and his pomp, let them be defaced. His buildings, let them become caves for the beasts of the field!
Confound her understanding with darkness! For why? it repenteth me that I have made Man.
One while let her be known, and another while a stranger; because she is in the bed of a harlot, and the dwelling place of Lucifer the King.
Open wide the gates of Hell! The lower heavens beneath you, let them serve you! Govern those who govern! Cast down such as fall. Bring forth those that increase, and destroy the rotten. No place, let it remain in one number. Add and diminish until the stars be numbered.
Arise! Move! and appear before the covenant of His mouth, which He hath sworn unto us in His justice. Open the mysteries of your creation, and make us partakers of the UNDEFILED WISDOM.
Underground Edition Contents
I. LaVey: Early Writings Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth (1967) Satanism Monograph (1968-1969) Letters From The Devil Column (April 1969) On Occultism of the Past (1971)
II. LaVey: Later Writings The Nine Satanic Sins (1987) Pentagonal Revisionism: A Five-Point Program (1988) The World's Most Powerful Religion (1996) III. LaVey: Enochian Writings Guide to Enochian Pronunciation (1970) Suggested Enochian Keys for Various Rituals and Ceremonies (1970) IV. Satanic Bible Scholarship
The Satanic Bible Dedications Delineated The Book of Satan from the Satanic Bible The Hidden Source of the Satanic Philosophy Satanism and Objectivism The Satanic Bible: Quasi-Scripture/Counter-Scripture Diabolical Authority: Anton LaVey, The Satanic Bible and the Satanist “Tradition” Prime-time Satanism: rumor-panic and the work of iconic topoi (excerpts) V. Symbol and Time
The Brimstone Symbol in the Satanic Bible The Satanic Calendar The Church of Satan’s Year Reckoning
VI. The Command To Look and Angularity The Command to Look The Occult Institute of Technology and Angular Environments The William Mortensen Story, Parts I, II, III and IV (external) The Command To Look Principle Excerpts from the Order of the Trapezoid Mission Statement Comments on the Law of the Trapezoid
VII. Reference
Glossary
Fragments Toward an Anton Szandor LaVey Reading List
Photo Gallery
Colophon
I. LaVey: Early Writings
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth Anton Szandor LaVey, 1967
1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9. Do not harm little children.
10. Do not kill non‐human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
“Satanism” Monograph (1968-1969)
Anton Szandor LaVey
The following monograph, distributed in 1968‐1969, was written to convey the essence of the Satanic religion as it was practiced by the Church of Satan in its earliest years. Much of the material in the monograph was later expanded into a series of twenty essays issued to Satanists as a study course.
Both the original monograph and the essays derived from it were discontinued prior to the 1970 publication of the Satanic Bible because of that volume’s incorporation of the essays in its “Books of Lucifer” and “Belial”. This monograph, then, may be considered the original manifesto of the Church of Satan and hence its founding statement of principles.—M.A.A.
The Nine Satanic Statements
1 Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2 Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3 Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self‐deceit!
4 Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5 Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6 Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7 Satan represents man as just another animal—sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all‐fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8 Satan represents all of the so‐called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9 Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!
Part I: Foreword
In writing this monograph it is our intent to give you a basic understanding of the Satanic religion. Therefore we have attempted to present this to you in a form which will be easily understood.
We fully realize that many of you who will read this booklet will not be novices to the basics of Satanism or the fundamentals of psychology which make up a large part of the Satanic philosophy.
We are aware that to many of you part of the information herein is elementary. Therefore it is to be understood that there is no attempt on our part to be condescending to those to whom some of this information is already known.
We realize, however, that probably many more of you know comparatively little about Satanism, except what little you have been able to decipher from the reams of ponderous material which is shrouded in so much esoteric jargon as to make it virtually useless to neophytes in Satanic theology. It is with this in mind that we have avoided delving into the finer points of Satanic thought and ritual magic. A complete statement of the tenets of Satanism and an explanation of the ceremonies and detailed instructions on same are available to our members.
In the past the only writings on Satanism were those done by other religions as a means of propaganda to turn people against it, or by uninformed journalists who were influenced by the Judæo‐Christian society surrounding them. Therefore the information contained in such writings was either completely false or sensationalized.
Our purpose is to enlighten you as to the true concepts of Satanism and to refute the myths attached to it.
The “seven deadly sins” of the Christian church are greed, pride, envy, anger, gluttony, lust, and sloth. Satanism advocates indulging in each of these “sins”, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification. A Satanist feels there is nothing wrong with being greedy, as it only means that he wants more than he already has. Envy simply means to look with favor upon the possessions of others and to be desirous of obtaining similar things for oneself. Envy and greed are the motivating forces of ambition, and without ambition very little of any importance would be accomplished.
Gluttony is simply eating more than you need to keep yourself alive. When you have over‐eaten to the point of obesity, you will oftentimes resort to another sin—pride—to regain an appearance which will return your self‐respect. Anyone who buys an article of clothing for a purpose other than covering his body and keeping off the elements is guilty of pride.
You may encounter scoffers who maintain that labels are not necessary. You might find it an ego‐satisfying little exercise to point out to these people that one or many articles that they are wearing are not necessary to keep them warm. There is not a person on this earth who is completely devoid of all ornamentation. You can inform the person that any ornamentation of his body shows that he too is guilty of pride. Regardless of how verbose he may be in his intellectual description of how free he is, he is still wearing the elements of pride. This thought may serve no other purpose for you than that of being a satisfying exercise in abuse of non‐Satanists.
Being reluctant to get up in the morning is to be guilty of sloth; and if you lie in bed long enough, you may find yourself indulging in yet another sin—lust. To have the faintest stirring of sexual desire is to be guilty of lust. In order to ensure the propagation of humanity, nature made lust the second most powerful instinct, the first being self‐preservation.
Realizing this, the Christian church made fornication the “original sin”. In this way it made certain that no one would escape sin. Your very state of being is as a result of sin—the original sin!
The strongest instinct of every living creature is self‐preservation, which brings us to the last of the “seven deadly sins”—anger. Is it not our self‐preservation instinct which is aroused when someone harms us and we become angry enough to protect ourselves from further attack? A Satanist practices the motto: “If a man smite thee on one cheek, smash him on the other!” Let no wrong go unredressed. Be as a lion in the path; be dangerous even in defeat!
Since man’s natural instincts lead him to sin, all men are sinners; and all sinners go to Hell. If everyone goes to Hell, then you will meet all of your friends there. Heaven must be populated by some very strange creatures if all they live for is to go to a place where they can strum harps for eternity.
We have been told that Hell is a terrible place consisting of a huge lake of fire. Pleasure, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Christian missionaries were very unsuccessful in Alaska because, to an Eskimo who knows nothing other than freezing weather, a perpetual lake of fire is very inviting. To the distress of the missionaries, the Eskimos asked, “How do we get there?”
Hell has always been the mold from which Heaven has been cast. Heaven or Paradise, to most people, represents a vision of having their desires fulfilled … these very desires being those which, if practiced during their earthly lives, would certainly have sent them to Hell!
Life is an indulgence, death an abstinence. For a person who is satisfied with his earthly existence, life is like a party, and no one likes to leave a good party. Similarly if a person is enjoying himself here on earth, he will not so readily give up his life for the promise of an afterlife about which he knows nothing.
In most religions death is touted as a beautiful, spiritual awakening. This is very appealing to one who has not had a satisfactory life. But to those who have experienced all of the joys that life has to offer, there is a great dread attached to dying. This is as it should be. It is this lust for life that will allow the vital person to live on after the inevitable death of his fleshly shell.
The only time an animal will resort to suicide is if he is in such pain or life is so unbearable that death comes as an indulgence rather than an abstinence. Suicide is considered a sin. It is rather curious that the only time death, for a human being, is considered sinful is when it comes as an indulgence.
The four principal devils are: Leviathan, representing the sea; Lucifer, the lord of the air or bearer of light; Belial, the lord of the earth; and Satan, lord of the fire.
One of the main goals of the Church of Satan is to build pleasure domes in which the members of the Church can indulge themselves in their personal desires. By having a place where they can go to release their desires, the members can lead an unfrustrated life in the everyday world. Satanism advocates indulgence, not compulsion. Compulsion is very different from indulgence. When a person cannot control his desires and is a slave to these urges, they become compulsions. If a person has no proper release for his desires, they rapidly build up and become compulsions. A pleasure dome would consist of many different rooms and recreational facilities for the purpose of fulfilling each member’s personal desires.
Satanism represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires. Satanism represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates. Psychic vampires are individuals who drain others of their vital existence. We might feel responsible to such people yet not know why. These types of persons can be found in all avenues of society. They fill no useful purpose in our lives and are neither love objects nor true friends. We must rid ourselves of these psychic vampires so that we can devote our time to the people about whom we truly care. Rituals which can be performed to rid ourselves of these people will be discussed later.
LittleNipper wrote:So says a pot that thinks it's not black.
Does the fact that you're trying to change the subject mean you're tacitly retracting your spurious claim that LeVay recanted on his deathbed?
If people like LeVay and O'Hair are as bad as you say they are, then why do you need to spread lies about them? Why not let their words and actions speak for themselves?
LittleNipper wrote:A mother who cuts off contact with her own son only because he becomes a Christian and obviously didn't mind using homosexuality as s slur... Or was that missed from the tape?
See above.
LittleNipper wrote:•Coughing up blood or bloody froth •Difficulty breathing when lying down (orthopnea) -- you may notice the need to sleep with your head propped up or use extra pillows •Feeling of "air hunger" or "drowning" (if this feeling wakes you from sleep and causes you to sit up and try to catch your breath, it's called "paroxysmal nocturnal dyspnea") •Grunting, gurgling, or wheezing sounds with breathing •Inability to speak in full sentences because of shortness of breath
Other symptoms may include: •Anxiety or restlessness •Decrease in level of alertness (consciousness) •Leg swelling •Pale skin •Sweating (excessive)
Nipper, you forgot to cut-and-paste the symptomology of ACUTE pulmonary edema, which includes but is not limited to: respiratory distress, cardiac arrest due to hypoxia, and death, all of which preclude speech. Next time pay attention.
Surprise, surprise, there is no divine mandate for the Church to discuss and portray its history accurately. --Yahoo Bot
I pray thee, sir, forgive me for the mess. And whether I shot first, I'll not confess. --Han Solo, from William Shakespeare's Star Wars
LittleNipper wrote:Christians are held by a higher standard.
Nipper, if Christians truly hold themselves to a "higher standard", then how do you account for the Satanic Ritual Abuse Panic of the 80's and 90's?
As you may (or may not) recall, the Satanic Ritual Abuse Panic resulted from false and salacious rumors originating in the Evangelical community of a world-wide Satanic conspiracy to abduct small children for use in Occult rituals.
These rumors contributed to the wrongful conviction of the West Memphis Three, as well as years of legal harassment suffered by the McMartin family and countless other innocent victims.
Nipper, I would like to know why the Evangelical community has failed to make amends to innocent victims who were falsely accused of crimes involving SRA. I would also like to know if you, as a Christian, were involved in fabricating and spreading these false rumors and accusations.
If you were, shouldn't you publicly confess your role in this travesty and ask your victims for forgiveness? That would be the Christian thing to do, right?
Surprise, surprise, there is no divine mandate for the Church to discuss and portray its history accurately. --Yahoo Bot
I pray thee, sir, forgive me for the mess. And whether I shot first, I'll not confess. --Han Solo, from William Shakespeare's Star Wars
Did Charles Manson kill more or less people than the God of the Old Testament?
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
A mother who cuts off contact with her own son only because he becomes a Christian and obviously didn't mind using homosexuality as s slur... Or was that missed from the tape? 
