Creedal Trinity misunderstood by LDS

[_PrickKicker]

Jubilees 4? He married his sister?
What are you on about? Mormon Cain took one of his brothers daughter to wife. (Moses 5:28)
Are you saying Jo Smith was a liar?

Are you even Mormon or do you just come here to Bible bash and argue your own false doctrines?

As a Mormon I was taught that Cain was made to tarry and so never died. But don't know why as I can't find it anywhere.

[_subgenius]

Jubilees 4? He married his sister?
What are you on about? Mormon Cain took one of his brothers daughter to wife. (Moses 5:28)
Are you saying Jo Smith was a liar?

i believe i said "according to" and noted that it was either his sister or NIECE

[_gdemetz]

Adam's sons married his daughters, their sisters, and obviously there must have been much intermarrying among the children of Noah also. So? It was necessary, and the laws concerning incest were given much later to Moses.

[_Mittens]

Adam's sons married his daughters, their sisters, and obviously there must have been much intermarrying among the children of Noah also. So? It was necessary, and the laws concerning incest were given much later to Moses.

Don't Mormons teach God the Father have an incestial relationship with his daughter Mary ?

[_Tobin]

Adam's sons married his daughters, their sisters, and obviously there must have been much intermarrying among the children of Noah also. So? It was necessary, and the laws concerning incest were given much later to Moses.

Don't Mormons teach God the Father have an incestial relationship with his daughter Mary ?

No.

[_PrickKicker]

Don't Mormons teach God the Father have an incestial relationship with his daughter Mary ?

No.

In the Mormon church there are 3 classes of Doctrine that is taught...

Doctrine - Of which there is none, as it is subject to change at any given time depending on the law of the land and future discovery.


Non Doctrine - The grey area which is how the church thrives, leaving it to the people to make it up as they go along, as with anything of the spirit, it can neither be proven nor dis-proven.

False Doctrine - The Stuff taught as if it is true but is refuted at a later date, due to theoretical / scriptural conflict. Holy Trinity, Adam God theory which was once taught by a prophet as true, but due to scriptural conflict is deemed untrue.

As Tobin doesn't want to elaborate. I'll have to do what all Mormons do due to lack of Doctrine and that is make up my own theory, and teach it to others, therefore the church can disclaim any discrepancies, with its reputation in tact and at the same time neither confirm nor deny its truthfulness, but also claim it as their own if confirmed.

There's 1 reference to the virgin birth in the Old Testament and that is Isaiah 7:14
The whole of Christianity is founded on this one scripture, which Joseph Smith knew was the foundation of Christianity and so had to duplicate it into the Book of Mormon. 2 Nephi 17:14

Then we have the accounts given after a claim to be the Son of God in... Matthew 1:18,20 Jesus is the Son of the Holy Ghost. and Luke 1:32,35 Jesus is the Son of the Holy Ghost and the Highest.
that is only 2-4 sentences MAX! and we are not sure if they are from first hand experience as no source of information is given who's to say the same hand did not write them or was the source of information?

Then there is 1 sentence in 1 Nephi 11: 18.

Mosiah 3:8 Mosiah knows the Names.. Mary and Jesus which were not even their real Jewish names? I believe that Mosiah is a combination of Josephs favouite prophets Moses and Isaiah = MOS-IAH!

Then there is Alma 7:10 again calling her Mary. almost like Joseph knows, so the Book of Mormon characters knew?

The whole of Christianity is based on evidence no bigger than a sentence, if you discount the symbolism and analogies of the law of Moses, which could had been the seeds of conspiring minds throughout the years as with Mr Smith you cannot underestimate the effects of a lie.

Just look at this forum to see how many words can be said about nothing but words written by only a handful of people over thousands of years.

[_Drifting]

Adam's sons married his daughters, their sisters, and obviously there must have been much intermarrying among the children of Noah also. So? It was necessary, and the laws concerning incest were given much later to Moses.

Don't Mormons teach God the Father have an incestial relationship with his daughter Mary ?

Well, the Church does teach that Mary conceived Jesus 'naturally' and that God was the Father of the child. As for wether it was incest or not, well that's not vital to your eternal salvation so pease move along...nothing to see here...

[_gdemetz]

Drifting, you and Mittens are both correct. The church does teach what you both have said. However, calling that an incestuous relationship is like calling God a murderer for destroying the wicked!

[_gdemetz]

I'll try posting this again! Yes, Mittens you and Drifting are correct about that. However, your comment of incestuous is blasphemy. That is the equivalent to stating that God is a murderer because he destroyed some very wicked people, or took them out of this life!

[_Drifting]

Drifting, you and Mittens are both correct. The church does teach what you both have said. However, calling that an incestuous relationship is like calling God a murderer for destroying the wicked!

Can you explain how the infants drowned during the flood can be classed as 'wicked'?

When you get your own planet are you going to create a saviour by impregnating one of your spirit daughters, or can you think of a more acceptable way of delivering the same result?

Did the Saviour of humanity really need to be the offspring of a seemingly spiritually incestuous relationship with an unmarried virgin betrothed to another?