Is hell enough as punishment?

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[_The Erotic Apologist]

Ludwig, I think what Little Nipper is trying to tell us is that the Earth was round during Old Testament times, but it became flat during New testament times.

No, what LittleNipper is trying to get you to reveal is that you know right well what God is clearly revealing. You understood it as a child. When someone talks about the four corners of the earth, he is saying EVERYWHERE on the planet. He isn't describing a block. The Bible says the earth appears as a circle floating in space. If you are going to spend your entire life trying to misdirect the truth to make yourself appear as some intelligent individual, you are going to miss the blessings of getting to know the Savior.

No, what LittleNipper is trying to get you to reveal is that you know right well what God is clearly revealing.
Uh, no. I know no such thing.


When someone talks about the four corners of the earth, he is saying EVERYWHERE on the planet.
Yes, but what does this have to do with the Old Testament's description of a flat Earth? FYI, the Qur'an also describes the Earth as being flat.


He isn't describing a block.
No, he's describing a flat expanse.


The Bible says the earth appears as a circle floating in space.
But we all know the Earth is actually a sphere. And it's not "floating" in space. It orbits the Sun.


If you are going to spend your entire life trying to misdirect the truth to make yourself appear as some intelligent individual, you are going to miss the blessings of getting to know the Savior.
Which is why I continue to ask you for clear, convincing proof that A) a god exists, and B) that it's the god of the Bible, as opposed to some other god such as Gwanying, the Dauist goddess of mercy.

[_Gunnar]

Obviously subby has a double standard concerning the credibility of witnesses. Only those who corroborate what he already believes count, as far as he is concerned.

That was exactly my point.

Yes, I know! I hope subby got that point too.

[_LittleNipper]

The popularity of Avalokitesvara is due to the personification of karuna (compassion) and prajna (wisdom). While wisdom makes the Bodhisattva close to the human minds, compassion makes him/her close to the human hearts. All other deities possess these two qualities to a certain degree, but for Avalokitesvara/Guanyin, being their perfect representation, it is easier for him/her to assimilate the attributes of other Brahmanical deities like Brahma, Vishnu and Siva thus becoming the most powerful of all spiritual powers, the father and mother of all.

Avalokitesvara who is a male Bodhisattva in India was transformed into a goddess in a Chinese male oriented society. A preliminary statement can be made here, that sinicization of Buddhism led to the creation of the Goddess of mercy with Chinese characteristics from a male deity with Indian characteristics. What brought about this change in the gender of this Bodhisattva and why? This transformation of a male deity from India into a female Goddess of mercy in a strongly patriarchal Chinese society both at the terrestrial and celestial levels has surprised many. Celestial because for any woman to gain entrance into the Paradise of Amitabha, she should shed her female form and assume a male form. For a female divinity to have grown in the terrestrial level in a male dominated society, and to have given rise to a cult is equally strange. It is not that there were no goddesses prior to the introduction of Buddhism in China.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

The popularity of Avalokitesvara is due to the...blah...blah...blah...

You're completely missing the point, Nipper.

You need to re-read my previous post.

Please do so.

HINT: It has nothing to do with the my-god-can-beat-up-your-god scenario that you seem to be stuck on.

[_subgenius]

...(snip)...
You believe something when 8 witnesses testify of it, right subby?

TEA did not ask for a number that had been PM'ed, but rather for a number that was allegedly being thought of...this being a result of TEA accusing me of being a mind-reader...which i did not confirm or deny...nor is that the issue.
The issue is whether TEA could provide any evidence for what TEA claims is true...for which TEA can only provide "testimony" and an insistence that this "testimony" is enough to establish the claim as being true when no other physical evidence exists...a circumstance, at that point, TEA shares with Nipper.
With that the hypocrisy and inadequacy of TEA's criticisms are, ironically, evident.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

...this being a result of TEA accusing me of being a mind-reader...which i did not confirm or deny...

Good morning, subby.

[_Bazooka]

...(snip)...
You believe something when 8 witnesses testify of it, right subby?

TEA did not ask for a number that had been PM'ed, but rather for a number that was allegedly being thought of...this being a result of TEA accusing me of being a mind-reader...which i did not confirm or deny...nor is that the issue.
The issue is whether TEA could provide any evidence for what TEA claims is true...for which TEA can only provide "testimony" and an insistence that this "testimony" is enough to establish the claim as being true when no other physical evidence exists...a circumstance, at that point, TEA shares with Nipper.
With that the hypocrisy and inadequacy of TEA's criticisms are, ironically, evident.

So, would you believe something if 8 people testified of it? 11 people perhaps?

Other than 'testimony' what physical evidence exists for the the Gold Plates - because you believe they existed, right?

[_Themis]

TEA did not ask for a number that had been PM'ed, but rather for a number that was allegedly being thought of...this being a result of TEA accusing me of being a mind-reader...which i did not confirm or deny...nor is that the issue.
The issue is whether TEA could provide any evidence for what TEA claims is true...for which TEA can only provide "testimony" and an insistence that this "testimony" is enough to establish the claim as being true when no other physical evidence exists...a circumstance, at that point, TEA shares with Nipper.
With that the hypocrisy and inadequacy of TEA's criticisms are, ironically, evident.

At least we now having you admit he did provide some evidence.

[_subgenius]

TEA did not ask for a number that had been PM'ed, but rather for a number that was allegedly being thought of...this being a result of TEA accusing me of being a mind-reader...which i did not confirm or deny...nor is that the issue.
The issue is whether TEA could provide any evidence for what TEA claims is true...for which TEA can only provide "testimony" and an insistence that this "testimony" is enough to establish the claim as being true when no other physical evidence exists...a circumstance, at that point, TEA shares with Nipper.
With that the hypocrisy and inadequacy of TEA's criticisms are, ironically, evident.

At least we now having you admit he did provide some evidence.

kinda slow aren't ya?