Gunnar wrote:So true (apparently) of India, and yet, paradoxically, many high tech jobs, especially in information technology customer service and software engineering have been outsourced to India, and some of the greatest mathematicians and scientists who ever lived have come from India, like Subramanyan Chandrasekhar and the amazing but all too short lived Srinivasa Ramanujan. And don't forget that we owe to the Indians the invention of the zero and the place value numerical notation system without which modern science and technology would probably have been impossible!
Thanks for this. Apparently M likes to pigeon hole people. I find that the spiritual in India tend to teach peace and tolerance. Something I find enlightening and not backwards.
Buddha emerged from Brahmism and rejected the caste system and many of the other worst practices. There's no reason "peace and tolerance" requires abusing women. I make no judgment of the people and there are certainly some positive aspects to the culture. But the negatives far outweigh the positives.
Franktalk wrote:Thanks for this. Apparently M likes to pigeon hole people. I find that the spiritual in India tend to teach peace and tolerance. Something I find enlightening and not backwards.
That they tend to teach peace and tolerance is not the backward part of their society. The backward part is their over emphasis the "inner life", too often to the exclusion of practical, demonstrable reality, as Maksutov and DrW described. There is really no question that this has tended to hold them back and helped keep them in poverty. Of course ruthless exploitation of them by Western colonial powers has probably had a lot to do with that as well.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Gunnar wrote:That they tend to teach peace and tolerance is not the backward part of their society. The backward part is their over emphasis the "inner life", too often to the exclusion of practical, demonstrable reality, as Maksutov and DrW described. There is really no question that this has tended to hold them back and helped keep them in poverty. Of course ruthless exploitation of them by Western colonial powers has probably had a lot to do with that as well.
To a people who believe this is but a temporary stopover it makes perfect sense. To feed the spirit is more important than to feed the body. This is a choice that people make. I understand it is not your choice. They had a chance to live under the British Government for some time. I think they chose wisely and have cast out western idols.
Franktalk wrote:To a people who believe this is but a temporary stopover it makes perfect sense. To feed the spirit is more important than to feed the body. This is a choice that people make. I understand it is not your choice. They had a chance to live under the British Government for some time. I think they chose wisely and have cast out western idols.
I suspect Franktalk feeds his body just fine.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
The CCC wrote:I accepted the LDS Truth Claims a long time ago. I've never had to accept some mortals explanation of them.
But that is exactly what you have done. You have accepted some mortals explanation of the truth claims and how they want you to interpret sensations being from God.
spotlight wrote:I suspect Franktalk feeds his body just fine.
We all make decisions for ourselves. Problems arise when we try and force others to do what we wish them to do. The whole pack of you telling others to conform to your ways is just wrong.
Franktalk wrote:We all make decisions for ourselves. Problems arise when we try and force others to do what we wish them to do. The whole pack of you telling others to conform to your ways is just wrong.
Franktalk attempts to justify his anti-educational stance.
"If the earth indeed orbits the sun, let each make that determination for themselves." Hello and welcome back to the dark ages - brought to you by Franktalk.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
Maksutov wrote:No more John Wayne and Clint Eastwood?
Madonna was allowed into India because she was on an inward journey.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
