Celestial room
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..It's also the reason I spent much of my time fighting off sleep during the endowment session.
If it weren't for all the stand up/sit downs and trying to tie/untie all those little knots, I would have been out the whole time.
I always got a chuckle out of "close yours eyes as if you were asleep.."
as if.
If it weren't for all the stand up/sit downs and trying to tie/untie all those little knots, I would have been out the whole time.
I always got a chuckle out of "close yours eyes as if you were asleep.."
as if.
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Since this topic is being played out in two kingdoms, er, forums, I thought I'd post my response to Mercury's Terrestrial OP question here as well:
I certainly found the temples to be peaceful places suitable for quiet meditation.
While I don't attribute this to supernatural agency, I also don't believe it to be mere coincidence or just the power of suggestion. The temples are designed to evoke feelings of reverence and peace. The simple but beautiful decor; the brightness of the (physical) illumination (especially in the celestial room); the absence of unnecessary chatter, auto and machinery sounds, radios, etc., and other sensory factors combine to create a feeling of peace and a reflective attitude. In and of itself, I can find only good in this.
I don't know if it would be just the same now, but I recall that entering the celestial room seemed like stepping out of time and into eternity--if only for a while. The temple was a self-contained universe where one could withdraw to gain a different perspective than that of mundane life and the daily grind.
My 2 cents,
Don
I certainly found the temples to be peaceful places suitable for quiet meditation.
While I don't attribute this to supernatural agency, I also don't believe it to be mere coincidence or just the power of suggestion. The temples are designed to evoke feelings of reverence and peace. The simple but beautiful decor; the brightness of the (physical) illumination (especially in the celestial room); the absence of unnecessary chatter, auto and machinery sounds, radios, etc., and other sensory factors combine to create a feeling of peace and a reflective attitude. In and of itself, I can find only good in this.
I don't know if it would be just the same now, but I recall that entering the celestial room seemed like stepping out of time and into eternity--if only for a while. The temple was a self-contained universe where one could withdraw to gain a different perspective than that of mundane life and the daily grind.
My 2 cents,
Don
The flowers are fake, Paul. And they look it. Watered-down washed-out fakes. The church has billions of dollars. They can afford to buy fresh flowers every danged day for all the temples, if they wanted to spend the money. The flowers are fake, Paul. And they look it. Watered-down washed-out fakes. The church has billions of dollars. They can afford to buy fresh flowers every danged day for all the temples, if they wanted to spend the money.
Harmony,
Did you hear the part about “allergies”? Hello! And, maybe just maybe the Church would rather spend money in different ways then living flowers. I suspect that if the Church spent a fortune on flowers YOU would complain about that too. It seems that you’re a woman that is never satisfied . . . . and all you do is complain, compalin, complain. That's enough to drive any man nuts.
And the seats are hard, not comfortable at all. No wonder no one wants to sit there. If that's supposed to be what the CK is like, I'm not going. Hard seats, fake flowers, and no laughter. Not my kinda place at all.
There are real flowers in heaven, Harmony. Also, there are no allergies. There is lots of laughter in heaven, Harmony. But in the tiny celestial room there simple rules to keep things quiet, dignified, and in order. No one wants their space invaded by a cackling person. It appears you have little manners when it comes to celestial rooms.
Oh brother. There's a big difference between opening someone's locker by mistake and seeing their shoes (since they don't leave their underwear in the locker!) than there is in opening a stall in the bathroom. Try again, Paul.
No, Harmony, there is no need to try again. That is the honest answer for why there are locks in the temple. And it makes sense too! I can imagine if someone were to accidently open up your locker and pull out something that belongs to you that there would promptly be a complaint about why there aren't any locks on the locker doors. Besides, people generally feel safer when their good are locked up. That's only natural. People are used to having their belongings locked up where ever they are. No one wants to worry about whether their stuff will be messed with for whatever reason. Moreover, if someones hands were oily or whatever, they would spoil your clothes and piss you off! You would be complaining all they way to the Church president.
All you do is complain, Harmony. My gosh, how can you stand it?
Actually, I just weeded the flower beds, pulled out the stickery weeds, and my roses smell just fine. Very pretty pink, with blooms covering the bushes. As for the cheer, I had a funeral to attend today, for a young man who died in a tragic accident. If I'm not exactly cheerful, it's because I feel so badly for his momma. No momma should have to bury her son.
Well then, it sounds like you're making some progress. Keep your head up and allow the beauty to mark your senses in a positive way.
Paul O
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Polygamy Porter wrote:My RM brother served in the Rochester NY, mission.. yes, near the birth place of the cult. . . by the way, he left the cult two years ago.
Hi Polygamy Porter,
Although the word "cult" isn't a swear word by any stretch of the imagination, it can be rather inflammatory to our Mormon friends here in this forum.
Will you please keep the Celestial Forum truly Celestial by avoid using that word and substitute it with "church" or something?
Thanks!
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
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I just posted something in my board blog, "Youthful Harlot's Curse" about a "celestial room." I put it there instead of in this thread because it was so long.
Do you think I should also post it here so people will be sure to take a look?
Do you think I should also post it here so people will be sure to take a look?
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Paul Osborne wrote:Did you hear the part about “allergies”? Hello! And, maybe just maybe the Church would rather spend money in different ways then living flowers.
Do you just run to the first half baked response? The answer of course is yes.
As for money spent elsewhere, I guess profitable ventures like a frigging mall is better spent.
You align yourself with an organization who's primary duty is to perform lip service/upkeep on a tawdry and cheap affair such as the temple. its cheaply/easilly maintained by volunteers and underpaid (illegal?) employees, cheap mass produced wall coverings and furnishings, etc.
Above all this though is the fact that you hold this place in high regards. That alone sets the stage in your mind. If they swapped it out with a Howard Johnson you wouldn't know the difference.
And crawling on the planet's face
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
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Paul Osborne wrote:Mercury wrote:I can't...they are sacred to me. How dare you ak me to show you what I hold to be secre...I mean sacred.
Hmmm, it seems you aren't up to that little challenge. It figures.
Paul O
No! you don't get it do you. I find them sacred and your demand to see them infuriates my spiritual sensibilities. next your going to ask me questions about my underwear!
How dare you demand this. I thought you were a man who respected things I hold sacred!
And crawling on the planet's face
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
Re: Celestial room
Paul Osborne wrote:The celestial room is a place of peace. Go to the temple often!
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This is a total derailment...Forgive me, Shades.
But, I just have to say...Hi, Paul! Long time no see!
:)
Welcome back!