4000 years ago apes were no closer to becoming human, than humans were to being apes
Oh that's right, you think evolution (if true) had to happen in 6,000 years time.
We have specimens of older humans with intact DNA. Otzi the ice man and the 12,000 year old remains of a girl found in a cave in Mexico. They have a greater amount of Neanderthal DNA than present populations of humans for example. But you probably think Neanderthals were Nephilim.
though many today certainly act like monkeys.
Ever watch a video of chimpanzees defending the dead body of a mate? Why do they do it? Pretty stupid really, after all they're dead. Kind of like humans burying their dead in wooden boxes huh? Doesn't make any sense. We act like monkeys don't we.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
The CCC wrote:... Robert Bellarmine, Cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church and the foremost Vatican theologian of the seventeeth century. ...
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- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
huckelberry wrote: LittleNipper you said, " I believe that science is a good thing when it sticks to the observable and repeatable. The problem comes when "science" is applied in ignorance of GOD to enhance secular thought by people with a vendetta against the supernatural." ///////// This made me wonder, Little Nipper, I am trying to find the way to ask this question. Perhaps this, I am wondering if your car disappeared one day and a week later some fellow was stopped by the police for running stop sign in Omaha and was found to be driving the vehicle which used to be yours would you try to claim it? Would you expect him to be convicted of a crime? After all nobody saw him steal anything. We cannot repeat the theft in court. Does that leave no scientific evidence of the action or is it possible to decipher the past from the remains left in the present ?
Well, if the car in question had my fingerprints on various places throughout the car, and my umbrella was found in the trunk, and this car had the very same identification number, plus my son's Flat Stanley was discovered in the glove compartment ---- then the car would definitely be my car. Now, the question would be, did this individual steal the car or did someone else take it originally. This "fellow" in question would most certainly be convicted of running a STOP sign.
In court this fellow would need to demonstrate where he bought the car and provide the TITLE to it. He would also have to explain why the car he was driving still had New Jersey license plates. I don't see any of the above information as scientific. I see it more as a paper trail. There is no experiment involved but there are living witnesses, even if the only person who saw the car being stolen was the thief himself. There would be those who could testify to the whereabouts of this individual. And the suspect in question certainly can answer some important questions.
LlttleNipper, paper trail as you mention seems like a good phrase for evidence of past events which we do not have before us. As Sherlock Holms went to lengths to explain the past can be investigated by considering remaining evidence. We consider where the car is found and look for a trail of how it got there. That trail sheds light on the event which we did not actually witness, theft in this case.
I understand geology to be engaged it that sort of investigations. I hike up a river canyon see what rocks are there ,ask myself how they got there and how they ended up shaped like they are.
LittleNipper wrote:Well, if the car in question had my fingerprints on various places throughout the car, and my umbrella was found in the trunk, and this car had the very same identification number, plus my son's Flat Stanley was discovered in the glove compartment ---- then the car would definitely be my car. Now, the question would be, did this individual steal the car or did someone else take it originally. This "fellow" in question would most certainly be convicted of running a STOP sign.
In court this fellow would need to demonstrate where he bought the car and provide the TITLE to it. He would also have to explain why the car he was driving still had New Jersey license plates. I don't see any of the above information as scientific. I see it more as a paper trail. There is no experiment involved but there are living witnesses, even if the only person who saw the car being stolen was the thief himself. There would be those who could testify to the whereabouts of this individual. And the suspect in question certainly can answer some important questions.
LlttleNipper, paper trail as you mention seems like a good phrase for evidence of past events which we do not have before us. As Sherlock Holms went to lengths to explain the past can be investigated by considering remaining evidence. We consider where the car is found and look for a trail of how it got there. That trail sheds light on the event which we did not actually witness, theft in this case.
I understand geology to be engaged it that sort of investigations. I hike up a river canyon see what rocks are there ,ask myself how they got there and how they ended up shaped like they are.
I simply suggest, that you consider that where there is evidence of a deluge ---- there is accepted evidence for catastrophic asteroid strikes, tsunamis of hundreds of feet high, ancient major volcanic activity that decimated very ancient civilizations, and trapped giant inland lakes that spilled over and washed out. We have the Bible and that is certainly a paper trail we should never disregard, overlook or underestimate.
I simply suggest, that you consider that where there is evidence of a deluge ---- there is accepted evidence for catastrophic asteroid strikes, tsunamis of hundreds of feet high, ancient major volcanic activity that decimated very ancient civilizations, and trapped giant inland lakes that spilled over and washed out. We have the Bible and that is certainly a paper trail we should never disregard, overlook or underestimate.[/quote]
There is accepted physical evidence for catastrophic asteroid strikes, tsunamis of hundreds of feet high, ancient major volcanic activity that decimated very ancient civilizations, and trapped giant inland lakes that spilled over and washed out. What there is no accepted physical evidence for is a world wide flood that covered all the tall hills(mountains) during the time of Noah.
The CCC wrote:There is accepted physical evidence for catastrophic asteroid strikes, tsunamis of hundreds of feet high, ancient major volcanic activity that decimated very ancient civilizations, and trapped giant inland lakes that spilled over and washed out. What there is no accepted physical evidence for is a world wide flood that covered all the tall hills(mountains) during the time of Noah.
There is enough evidence that everything was either once covered by water or that it is more recent. You may wish to realize that that Alps were not there for the Flood but were the end result of the Flood cause buckling of the earth's surface. The oceans descended and the mountains ascended and Noah found himself on a mountain. All the evidence is not accepted as evidence for everyone. Some is distorted, some overlooked, and some is just plain too unsettling for a secular mind with secular motives to accept.
The CCC wrote:There is accepted physical evidence for catastrophic asteroid strikes, tsunamis of hundreds of feet high, ancient major volcanic activity that decimated very ancient civilizations, and trapped giant inland lakes that spilled over and washed out. What there is no accepted physical evidence for is a world wide flood that covered all the tall hills(mountains) during the time of Noah.
There is enough evidence that everything was either once covered by water or that it is more recent. You may wish to realize that that Alps were not there for the Flood but were the end result of the Flood cause buckling of the earth's surface. The oceans descended and the mountains ascended and Noah found himself on a mountain. All the evidence is not accepted as evidence for everyone. Some is distorted, some overlooked, and some is just plain too unsettling for a secular mind with secular motives to accept.
Completely incorrect. As per Wikipedia, "The mountains were formed over tens of millions of years as the African and Eurasian tectonic plates collided. "
Evidence from the Morris dynasty of creationist fantasists is not evidence, dear one. None of what you are preaching is accepted in schools of geology throughout the world, only in religious subsidiary organizations of apologists. Professions of articles of faith preclude scientific enterprise in this century. Your interpretations of geologic formations are without basis and insulting to the thousands of scientists and engineers who have labored to produce the evidence that you ignore, and who manage to run real world activities based on this knowledge without Bible in hand.
You do not have to get your understanding of science from Jack Chick comics. There are religious people throughout the world who do not accept young earth creationism. This is not a matter of faith but of fanaticism.
Maksutov wrote: This is not a matter of faith but of fanaticism.
And gross ignorance.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
