Creedal Trinity misunderstood by LDS

[_subgenius]

Joseph Smith said the Trinity is three gods.

"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods," (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370).

again, we are already convinced that you worship three gods...no need to beat that dead horse.

[_Mittens]

Actually We believe Jesus when He told us what the Greatest Command was

Mark 12:
28 One of the teachers of religion who was standing there listening to the discussion realized that Jesus had answered well. So he asked, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
29 Jesus replied, “The one that says, ‘Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is the one and only God.
30 And you must love him with all your heart and soul and mind and strength.’
31“The second is: ‘You must love others as much as yourself.’ No other commandments are greater than these.”

No Polythiesm in Evangelic circles

This is Polythiesm

Book of Abraham by Joseph Smith Jr
Chapter 4


The Gods plan the creation of the earth and all life thereon—Their plans for the six days of creation are set forth.


1 And then the Lord said: Let us go down. And they went down at the beginning, and they, that is the Gods, organized and formed the heavens and the earth.

2 And the earth, after it was formed, was empty and desolate, because they had not formed anything but the earth; and darkness reigned upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of the Gods was brooding upon the face of the waters.

3 And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light; and there was light.

4 And they (the Gods) comprehended the light, for it was abright; and they divided the light, or caused it to be divided, from the darkness.

[_gdemetz]

Nipper, I quoted exactly what the common belief of apostate Christendom's conception of the Trinity BY DEFINITION, just for Mittens and you! It states clearly that God is one being manifested by three persons, which is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard! If you look up the Athenasian creed , then you will see an asterik every time "Catholic" is mentioned, and the word universal is substituted
in a pitiful attempt to try to make it apply to all apostate Christendom!

Nobody seemed to stop and think that "The emperor has no clothes," and why would someone pray to Himself and land on himself at his own baptism throwing his voice to heaven stating that he was well pleased with himself! Why would part of this "one being" know when part of him would return to the earth, but the other part of the same being would not?!? Thank God for the "restitution of ALL things"!!!

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine.......and shall be turned unto fables."

[_Mittens]

Nipper, I quoted exactly what the common belief of apostate Christendom's conception of the Trinity BY DEFINITION, just for Mittens and you! It states clearly that God is one being manifested by three persons, which is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard! If you look up the Athenasian creed , then you will see an asterik every time "Catholic" is mentioned, and the word universal is substituted
in a pitiful attempt to try to make it apply to all apostate Christendom!

Nobody seemed to stop and think that "The emperor has no clothes," and why would someone pray to Himself and land on himself at his own baptism throwing his voice to heaven stating that he was well pleased with himself! Why would part of this "one being" know when part of him would return to the earth, but the other part of the same being would not?!? Thank God for the "restitution of ALL things"!!!

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine.......and shall be turned unto fables."

You have no idea what the Trinity Teaches since it claims three separate and distinct persons who represent the One God. What you are claiming what is found in the Book of Mormon.


Luke 10:
23 All things are delivered to me of my Father; and no man knoweth that the Son is the Father, and the Father is the Son, but him to whom the Son will reveal it. Joseph Smith Translation

Mosiah 15
3 The Father, abecause he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—
4 And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth.

Mosiah 16:
15 Teach them that redemption cometh through Christ the Lord, who is the very Eternal Father. Amen.


Alma 11:38 Now Zeezrom saith again unto him: Is the Son of God the very Eternal Father?

Ether 3:14 Behold, I am he who was prepared from the foundation of the world to redeem my people. Behold, I am Jesus Christ. I am the Father and the Son. In me shall all mankind have life, and that eternally, even they who shall believe on my name; and they shall become my sons and my daughters.

[_gdemetz]

Mittens, wake up!!! I posted to you the definition of what (apostate) Christians believe about the trinity!!! I also carefully tried to explain the Mormon correct concept, even using marbles to illustrate the point, but you do not appear to be intellectually capable of comprehending what I have clearly stated!

[_Mittens]

Mittens, wake up!!! I posted to you the definition of what (apostate) Christians believe about the trinity!!! I also carefully tried to explain the Mormon correct concept, even using marbles to illustrate the point, but you do not appear to be intellectually capable of comprehending what I have clearly stated!

I know I have better comprehension of the doctrine of the Trinity than you, I posted several cites of the Trinity from Bible Dictionarys and from Calvin Beisner's book "God in the Persons" all agree with me. Your quite lost about the Trinity gdemetz.......

[_LittleNipper]

I'm not the one who came up the marble analogy... an LDS did... God the Father is God, Jesus says He is God, And the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible clearly teaches that there is only ONE God and HE is jealous of any other pretender. So the teaching that there are multiple gods is clearly TOTALLY a very bad thing. But since the nature of the only one God that exists is triune, then there is but one form God can take ------------ three united parts of a whole --- a Godhead. This totally fits scripture perfectly.

Hey, google dictionary and then look up "trinity"...it means "three"...no way around it...three is not two and its definitely not one...your creed is as polytheistic as any other christian faith...welcome to the club...unless you can somehow (miraculously) resolve how the Creed manages to NOT deny Modalism completely.
The Creed in no way promotes that God simply appears in three different forms, so........awkward, but apparently you are kinda Mormon.
"Monotheism" don't exactly mean what you want it to these days, if you doubt it then just have this conversation with a person of Muslim or Jewish faith and they will quickly explain to you why Christian are not monotheistic.

see also
John 10:33-34
Psalms 82:6
Deut. 10:17

(it should be noted that LDS do not "worship" multiple gods.)

And egg has a shell, a yoke & an egg white. THREE parts. If one looks at the outside of an egg --- is it an egg? If one cracks open that shell and reveals the egg white and yoke --- is it still an egg? If one separates out the yoke, is it still an egg? Three parts, all the same thing --- an egg... ONE EGG AND NOT THREE EGGS! The egg is triune in nature. Triune means three but three parts and not three eggs. God has three parts we call persons. Three parts yet one GOD. Triune does mean three and that is why the term is used. Holy, Holy, Holy. Past, present, future, Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

[_gdemetz]

Mittens, as usual, you don't know what you are talking about! The doctrine of the trinity is the doctrine of three Gods as one being just as it has been defined! If you believe that they are separate "beings," then you are preaching Mormon doctrine!

Bad analogy Hipper! However, unlike Mittens, at least you are being more honest about the stupid doctrine. Nipper, the Godhead is nothing like an egg! An egg is, well, just an egg...one egg. The Godhead consists of three separate persons with three separate minds! It doesn't talk or pray to itself to itself as an insane person would!!!

[_Albion]

As usual, gdemetz grossly misstates Christian belief and theology. I think you are better off playing with marbles rather than confirming the title of this thread.

[_subgenius]

Actually We believe Jesus when He told us what the Greatest Command was

Mark 12:
28 One of the teachers of religion who was standing there listening to the discussion realized that Jesus had answered well. So he asked, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
29 Jesus replied, “The one that says, ‘Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is the one and only God.
30 And you must love him with all your heart and soul and mind and strength.’
31“The second is: ‘You must love others as much as yourself.’ No other commandments are greater than these.”

Let us insert your "Creed" for clarity...

Mark 12:
28 One of the teachers of religion who was standing there listening to the discussion realized that Jesus had answered well. So he asked, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
29 Jesus replied, “The one that says, ‘Hear, O Israel! The (me and two others) is the one and only (me and two others).
30 And you must love (me and two others) with all your heart and soul and mind and strength.’
31“The second is: ‘You must love others as much as yourself.’ No other commandments are greater than these.

Yep, three is not three, it is actually one, and one is not one it is actually three....got it!