Did a man or the Self-Existing God create the Universe ?

[_LittleNipper]

Real HONEST science is observation coupled with repeatability. Anything less than that is opinion no matter the credentials.

That is why river erosion tells time.

And "Climate Change" is demonstrating a different explanation. Change can happen very, very, very, quickly ---- so the Flood would have a large impact on climate, as well as, topography and geography and fossil formation and species obliteration. That is why I do no fret over the doom and gloom pronouncements coming from evolution indoctrinated politicians. They do not fathom that GOD and NOT US is technically in control.

Scientists have calculated the length of time for permafrost to sink deep into the earth's crust. Using thermal conductivity, a basic property of matter, the time it would take for permafrost to reach the measured permafrost depth of 1,778 feet at Prudhoe Bay is over 500,000 years. If it is argued that god created the world 6,000 years ago with such deep permafrost already in place, then there can be no explanation for the multitude of fossils found in these frozen arctic regions.

Oh and permafrost, where soil and rock are always below freezing point, exists at depths below 5,400 feet in Siberia.

Is LittleNipper a tool for circumcision?

Scientists calculate! "Scientists" calculate..! How? using what exactly? Don't believe everything "scientists" suggest. They were not there and they have no real clue. Revelation from God is the only thing that is absolutely above reproach.

[_Themis]

Scientists calculate! "Scientists" calculate..! How? using what exactly?

How about spending a little time actually learning what they do.

Revelation from God is the only thing that is absolutely above reproach.

You mean revelation given to Joseph Smith right? Or David Koresh?

[_spotlight]

Scientists calculate! "Scientists" calculate..! How? using what exactly?

Newton's law of cooling - known since, well Newton. Specifically 1701 (315 years and counting)

https://www.khanacademy.org/math/differ ... of-cooling

https://www.khanacademy.org/math/differ ... rm-oatmeal

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Here is some additional history. In particular, note the following.

Lavoisier and Laplace [1783] provided detailed descriptions of an ice calorimeter with which they measured, for the first time, the latent heat of melting of ice.

We've known about energy requirements for the phase change of water/ice for 233 years now.

By the time of Fourier heat conduction due to temperature differences and heat storage and the associated specific heat of materials had been experimentally established.

So the mathematical models are not just a guess. We have had experimental data to test them against for quite a while.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 900006/pdf

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Examples of using the FT to solve a heat conduction problems

//www.math.vt.edu/people/dlr/m2k_opm_fsolht.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPjwsOEKTso

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Fourier Transform and its applications
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZNm7L96pfY

If you follow this lecture series through to the end you'll learn how it is even used for tomography.

The fourth method is called Fourier reconstruction. In the spatial domain, CT reconstruction involves the relationship between a two-dimensional image and its set of one-dimensional views. By taking the two-dimensional Fourier transform of the image and the one-dimensional Fourier transform of each of its views, the problem can be examined in the frequency domain. As it turns out, the relationship between an image and its views is far simpler in the frequency domain than in the spatial domain. The frequency domain analysis of this problem is a milestone in CT technology called the Fourier slice theorem.

http://www.dspguide.com/ch25/5.htm

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modern models
http://www.geo.uzh.ch/~stgruber/pubs/ri ... 08-PPP.pdf

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The calculations of heat transfer are just as solid as the calculations of mechanics used to plan and execute space flights. It is experimentally established science. It is straight forward. It is on solid ground.

[_LittleNipper]

Scientists calculate! "Scientists" calculate..! How? using what exactly?

Newton's law of cooling - known since, well Newton. Specifically 1701 (315 years and counting)

https://www.khanacademy.org/math/differ ... of-cooling

https://www.khanacademy.org/math/differ ... rm-oatmeal

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Here is some additional history. In particular, note the following.

Lavoisier and Laplace [1783] provided detailed descriptions of an ice calorimeter with which they measured, for the first time, the latent heat of melting of ice.

We've known about energy requirements for the phase change of water/ice for 233 years now.

By the time of Fourier heat conduction due to temperature differences and heat storage and the associated specific heat of materials had been experimentally established.

So the mathematical models are not just a guess. We have had experimental data to test them against for quite a while.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 900006/pdf

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Examples of using the FT to solve a heat conduction problems

//www.math.vt.edu/people/dlr/m2k_opm_fsolht.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPjwsOEKTso

------------------

Fourier Transform and its applications
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZNm7L96pfY

If you follow this lecture series through to the end you'll learn how it is even used for tomography.

The fourth method is called Fourier reconstruction. In the spatial domain, CT reconstruction involves the relationship between a two-dimensional image and its set of one-dimensional views. By taking the two-dimensional Fourier transform of the image and the one-dimensional Fourier transform of each of its views, the problem can be examined in the frequency domain. As it turns out, the relationship between an image and its views is far simpler in the frequency domain than in the spatial domain. The frequency domain analysis of this problem is a milestone in CT technology called the Fourier slice theorem.

http://www.dspguide.com/ch25/5.htm

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modern models
http://www.geo.uzh.ch/~stgruber/pubs/ri ... 08-PPP.pdf

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The calculations of heat transfer are just as solid as the calculations of mechanics used to plan and execute space flights. It is experimentally established science. It is straight forward. It is on solid ground.

And if the perfect environment for Adam and Eve needed ice in its equation ----do you really think God waited for a heavenly freezer to make ice cubes?

[_spotlight]

And if the perfect environment for Adam and Eve needed ice in its equation ----do you really think God waited for a heavenly freezer to make ice cubes?

There are fossils in that ice.
http://westerndigs.org/700000-year-old- ... r-decoded/

[_LittleNipper]

One can create ice without thousands of years under various circumstances. Do you have a simple explanation for the following? http://www.creationism.org/ackerman/Ack ... Chap09.htm

[_spotlight]

One can create ice without thousands of years under various circumstances. Do you have a simple explanation for the following? http://www.creationism.org/ackerman/Ack ... Chap09.htm

What is the reason for this post? Was it the age of the horse in the ice? Leave that issue aside for the moment and stick with the topic at hand. It does not really matter how old the animals inside the permafrost are. The issue is that they are there at all.

There was no answer to the permafrost problem in your link. Not only that but there was not an answer to this problem on any of the other pages flipping forwards to the start or flipping backwards to the end.

I am perfectly willing to discuss any of these other pratts mentioned in your link but first let's resolve the permafrost problem for a young earth.

[_rabirj]

the quote goes like this---sometime in the infinite past the higher INTELIGENCES got together and formulated a plan--that plan became know as the plan of salvation--from this the spirit of man and the physical body of man were formulated and the first God was formed and a wife so that man could be procreated--inother words man has not always existed but intelligences have--that is where it all comes from--all so the universe was designed at the time of this plans formulation--

[_LittleNipper]

One can create ice without thousands of years under various circumstances. Do you have a simple explanation for the following? http://www.creationism.org/ackerman/Ack ... Chap09.htm

What is the reason for this post? Was it the age of the horse in the ice? Leave that issue aside for the moment and stick with the topic at hand. It does not really matter how old the animals inside the permafrost are. The issue is that they are there at all.

There was no answer to the permafrost problem in your link. Not only that but there was not an answer to this problem on any of the other pages flipping forwards to the start or flipping backwards to the end.

I am perfectly willing to discuss any of these other pratts mentioned in your link but first let's resolve the permafrost problem for a young earth.

God's Word tells me that there was a world wide flood. It also indicates that after about 1 year that the surface of the earth began to reappear. Part of this was through uplifting of select areas of this planet and the subsidence of others. I also realize that the polar ice caps and various frozen areas allowed for the further exposure and drying of the surface areas humans now reside on. You may wish to consider the following scientific information. http://creation.com/do-greenland-ice-co ... ual-layers

[_ludwigm]

... the following scientific information. http://creation.com/do-greenland-ice-co ... ual-layers

Did you really write the word "scientific" and the word "creation" in the same sentence?

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