liz3564 wrote:Harmony wrote:Moses killed a man, hid his deed, and ran.
Abraham was not admirable at all. He lied about his wife, setting her up for rape, and was prepared to kill both his sons, one by the knife and one by starvation in the desert. He took his wife's servant to bed, got her pregnant, and then kicked her and his oldest son out of his household into the desert to die.
Jonah was a coward.
Paul hated women.
Perhaps you don't call those characteristics defects.
Great point! :)
What is amazing to me is that the character of these men are never questioned. There is never even any fault found with them on a personal level(I.e..."they were speaking as men, not prophets"...the current "out" for LDS Church leaders). Your statements in most Church settings, whether LDS, Catholic, EV, etc. would be considered blasphemous, even though they are right on the money.
Indeed Harmony, great point. I'm surprised our scholar missed this.
Liz,
The fundies are never going to focus on things like this, because it makes being human seem too glamorous. They want to be "God's chosen", set apart from the rest of the world. But people who truly want to change the world from a Christian perspective talk about things like the above all the time. In what bit I've read (compared to what I want to read before I leave this rock called earth), the point harmony made is made over and over again.
Max Lucado, in a workbook I've been working in pointed out how the lineage of Christ was not all that glamorous.
But again, when you want to be above something or someone, pointing out weaknesses in your system is not the most prudent thing to do.