The Nehor wrote:Roger Morrison wrote:Some where back in this fast moving thread Nehor inferred "...science has not brought happiness..." or words to that affect. Really Bro??
Are you suggesting there was more "happiness" before the predominance of "science"?
It's quite likely in my "vision" ;-) to see Science revealing truth about what contributes to unhappiness--actually it already has, but not everyone pays attention. So, there will be more information to that purpose. That will bring more questions re the value of religion/church as now seen.
This could lead to more real-spirituality that might expand core values beyond the narrow confines of religion. Albeit confines that are becoming more flexible as intelligence dispells the dependence on miracles and rituals...
Discovery is the essence and purpose of existence, as I understand things... Warm regards, Roger
I am suggesting that scientific knowledge has little, if any connection to happiness. Part of my faith teaches that the happiest people on Earth were the city of Enoch who knows how long ago and a Nephite civilization roughly 2000 years ago.
I agree with you regarding discovery being one of the key aspects of our lives but limiting that only to scientific discovery would make scientists the only fulfilled people on the planet.
Nehor stated:
I am suggesting that scientific knowledge has little, if any connection to happiness.
You ignore my analysis previously. You fail to address that analysis regarding your comfort and health. Your “suggesting” is flawed. People who are suffering from disease, heat, cold, etc. with no escape or solution to those discomforts and threat of death do not demonstrate “happiness.”
I suggest, Nehor, that you are a fraud. Why don’t you
quote me and respond to the analysis I presented? I suggest it’s because you are incapable of doing so. You prefer to get on with
asserting claims.
Applied science (and a degree of wealth) gives access to those very things that make us comfortable, secure, and safe. To suggest that those three things are unrelated to happiness is absurd.
You don’t have to know
how the air-conditioning works to enjoy the advantages of it. So you have
access to scientific knowledge even if you’re ignorant of just how it works. But it works. It can be explained. And, it’s inherently linked to our mental state of mind (as in happy).
Your
suggesting is flawed. I should like to observe you
alone and not by choice on a desert in 130 degree temperatures for an extended period of time not to pass your death there and see just how “happy” you would be in that environment over which you had no control and over which you had
no scientific knowledge (applied).
Your claim is absurd. Look at the number of posts you have made on this bb alone. You did it with
applied science. The antithesis of
happy is
unhappy. Are you “happy” posting to this bb? This medium is
applied science.
Nehor stated:
Part of my faith teaches that the happiest people on Earth were the city of Enoch who knows how long ago and a Nephite civilization roughly 2000 years ago.
You have been indoctrinated to reject rational thinking. Religious mythology refined and used for
marketing clouds what intellect you might have. People 2000 years ago had short life-expectancy, were killed by disease at early ages, lived lives you cannot imagine (excluding religious myth of
happy talk).
You should understand that the topic has become a matter of considerable controversy in which the theories of modern Mormon pundits are pitted against the traditional teaching of the LDS Church. They don’t agree on
history. Hence,
history is a point of view even within the confines of the Mormon dogma.
You don’t demonstrate that you understand that “your faith” even since the time of J. Smith’s
mythology is far from united.
Review:
A Brief Survey of the Evidence
Nehor stated:
I agree with you (Roger Morrison) regarding discovery being one of the key aspects of our lives but limiting that only to scientific discovery would make scientists the only fulfilled people on the planet.
Again, you demonstrate that you’re disingenuous. No one suggested your straw man here.
You are the beneficiary of applied science. Your comfort, health, life-expectancy, and happiness are
directly linked to
applied science. No one suggested your straw man that anything: “would make scientists the only fulfilled people on the planet.”
Your indoctrination in religious mythology appears to preclude the function of thinking skills.
JAK