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WE Worship Jesus and have Personal Relationship

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:16 am
by _Mittens
1. He was worshiped as God by the angels. Heb. 1:6
2. He was worshiped as God by the shepherds. Luke 2:15
3. He was worshiped as God by the wise men. Matt. 2:2, 11
4. He was worshiped as God by a leper. Matt. 8:2
5. He was worshiped as God by a ruler. Matt. 9:18
6. He was worshiped as God by a Canaanite woman. Matt. 15:25
7. He was worshiped as God by a mother. Matt. 20:20
8. He was worshiped as God by a maniac. Mark 5:6
9. He was worshiped as God by a man born blind. John 9:38
10. He was worshiped as God by Thomas. John 20:28
11. He was worshiped as God by the Greeks. John 12:20-21
12. He was worshiped as God by His Apostles. Matt. 14:33; 28:9
13. He is worshiped as God by all creation. Rev 5:11-14
14. He was worshiped as God by Isaiah. Isaiah 6:1-6. John 12:41
15. He was worshiped as God by the women. Matt 28:9
16. He was worshiped by His Disciples. Luke 24:52

Yet McConkie warns us not to have personal relationship with Jesus or to Worship him :question:

Our Relationship with the Lord
BRUCE R. MCCONKIE

Now, it is no secret that many false and vain and foolish things are being taught in the sectarian world and even among us about our need to gain a special relationship with the Lord Jesus. I shall summarize the true doctrine in this field and invite erring teachers and beguiled students to repent and believe the accepted gospel verities as I shall set them forth.
We worship the Father and him only and no one else.

We do not worship the Son, and we do not worship the Holy Ghost. I know perfectly well what the scriptures say about worshipping Christ and Jehovah, but they are speaking in an entirely different sense--the sense of standing in awe and being reverentially grateful to him who has redeemed us. Worship in the true and saving sense is reserved for God the first, the Creator.

Christ worked out his own salvation by worshiping the Father.
After the Firstborn of the Father, while yet a spirit being, had gained power and
intelligence that made him like unto God; after he had become, under the Father, the Creator of worlds without number; after he had reigned on the throne of eternal power as the Lord Omnipotent--after all this he yet had to gain a mortal and then an immortal body.

http://speeches.BYU.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6843

Re: WE Worship Jesus and have Personal Relationship

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:56 pm
by _PrickKicker
I have to agree with McDonkey on that one...

Although being a Member the LDS church for life.
I have never really had a personal relationship with Jesus.
He's just never there when you need him, in fact he is never there at all.
And so I have begun to doubt his existence.

Nor do I believe I have ever worshiped anyone or anything!

When I hear the word worship, I imagine people bowing down before idols.
Statues, crucifixes and the like.

Yes I went to church and heard people pray and singing hymns,
but as Mormons we didn't really outwardly show any form worship.

What is it you do?
How should it be done?

Re: WE Worship Jesus and have Personal Relationship

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:36 am
by _msnobody
Mittens wrote:1. He was worshiped as God by the angels. Heb. 1:6
2. He was worshiped as God by the shepherds. Luke 2:15
3. He was worshiped as God by the wise men. Matt. 2:2, 11
4. He was worshiped as God by a leper. Matt. 8:2
5. He was worshiped as God by a ruler. Matt. 9:18
6. He was worshiped as God by a Canaanite woman. Matt. 15:25
7. He was worshiped as God by a mother. Matt. 20:20
8. He was worshiped as God by a maniac. Mark 5:6
9. He was worshiped as God by a man born blind. John 9:38
10. He was worshiped as God by Thomas. John 20:28
11. He was worshiped as God by the Greeks. John 12:20-21
12. He was worshiped as God by His Apostles. Matt. 14:33; 28:9
13. He is worshiped as God by all creation. Rev 5:11-14
14. He was worshiped as God by Isaiah. Isaiah 6:1-6. John 12:41
15. He was worshiped as God by the women. Matt 28:9
16. He was worshiped by His Disciples. Luke 24:52

Yet McConkie warns us not to have personal relationship with Jesus or to Worship him :question:

Our Relationship with the Lord
BRUCE R. MCCONKIE

Now, it is no secret that many false and vain and foolish things are being taught in the sectarian world and even among us about our need to gain a special relationship with the Lord Jesus. I shall summarize the true doctrine in this field and invite erring teachers and beguiled students to repent and believe the accepted gospel verities as I shall set them forth.
We worship the Father and him only and no one else.

We do not worship the Son, and we do not worship the Holy Ghost. I know perfectly well what the scriptures say about worshipping Christ and Jehovah, but they are speaking in an entirely different sense--the sense of standing in awe and being reverentially grateful to him who has redeemed us. Worship in the true and saving sense is reserved for God the first, the Creator.

Christ worked out his own salvation by worshiping the Father.
After the Firstborn of the Father, while yet a spirit being, had gained power and
intelligence that made him like unto God; after he had become, under the Father, the Creator of worlds without number; after he had reigned on the throne of eternal power as the Lord Omnipotent--after all this he yet had to gain a mortal and then an immortal body.

http://speeches.BYU.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6843


Where would the LDS church be if her members didn't have to strive for personal worthiness?

Re: WE Worship Jesus and have Personal Relationship

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:14 am
by _The Erotic Apologist
Mittens wrote:Pure Worship


Worship me or I'll torture you forever.

Have a nice day.

--love, God

Re: WE Worship Jesus and have Personal Relationship

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:28 am
by _Bond James Bond
Jesus. Nice guy. Killed by Romans for trolling Pharisees.

Re: WE Worship Jesus and have Personal Relationship

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:23 am
by _Mittens
PrickKicker wrote:I have to agree with McDonkey on that one...

Although being a Member the LDS church for life.
I have never really had a personal relationship with Jesus.
He's just never there when you need him, in fact he is never there at all.
And so I have begun to doubt his existence.

Nor do I believe I have ever worshiped anyone or anything!

When I hear the word worship, I imagine people bowing down before idols.
Statues, crucifixes and the like.

Yes I went to church and heard people pray and singing hymns,
but as Mormons we didn't really outwardly show any form worship.

What is it you do?
How should it be done?


Here's an example of Pure Worship

http://youtu.be/DdQ79-GBRi4

Re: WE Worship Jesus and have Personal Relationship

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:57 am
by _The Erotic Apologist
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Re: WE Worship Jesus and have Personal Relationship

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:41 am
by _ldsfaqs
McConkie is absolutely correct, and you're not Mittens.

Even the Bible and Christ Himself said WHO we are to worship.
It's God the Father, not Him, not anyone else.

McConkie is correct that the "type" of worship we give the Son is to be completely different.
We worship the Father in the Name of the Son. Those who have Jesus Jesus Jesus on the brain are breaking one of the 10 Commandments, "Idolatry".

Christ is the Exemplar, the Savior, our Brother, not our Father. Our "due deference" is to be given to our Father, like we are to give our own Father's due deference. We don't give our brothers deference, but they CAN be examples to us.

If we lived in the days where respect and humility to parents was paramount, you would understand this concept.

Re: WE Worship Jesus and have Personal Relationship

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:03 am
by _PrickKicker
Mittens...
Thank You for that video, it helped me pass some time and contemplate the similarities between the preacher and Robbie Williams here in my video.

http://youtu.be/n-Mo38Di7ZA

I was with several thousand people at a Robbie Williams concert at Knebworth, England.
he got people waving their hands and singing along too his songs.

he was not trying to sell a the idea that there was a supreme being, just his music records.
he did not dupe people into believing that he possessed some magical power to heal the sick.

and Man the Buzz ( SPIRIT ) Whatever, was AWESOME!!!

Is this worship?
or just several thousand people united in purpose gathered wanting to sing and have a good time.

Re: WE Worship Jesus and have Personal Relationship

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:38 pm
by _Mittens
1. He was worshiped as God by the angels. Heb. 1:6
2. He was worshiped as God by the shepherds. Luke 2:15
3. He was worshiped as God by the wise men. Matt. 2:2, 11
4. He was worshiped as God by a leper. Matt. 8:2
5. He was worshiped as God by a ruler. Matt. 9:18
6. He was worshiped as God by a Canaanite woman. Matt. 15:25
7. He was worshiped as God by a mother. Matt. 20:20
8. He was worshiped as God by a maniac. Mark 5:6
9. He was worshiped as God by a man born blind. John 9:38
10. He was worshiped as God by Thomas. John 20:28
11. He was worshiped as God by the Greeks. John 12:20-21
12. He was worshiped as God by His Apostles. Matt. 14:33; 28:9
13. He is worshiped as God by all creation. Rev 5:11-14
14. He was worshiped as God by Isaiah. Isaiah 6:1-6. John 12:41
15. He was worshiped as God by the women. Matt 28:9
16. He was worshiped by His Disciples. Luke 24:52

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