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It is compatible with critical thinking.. It is so called critical thinkers that think faith is believing in spooks.

Themis wrote:

SPG wrote:Consider that your definition of faith is wrong.

Faith isn't guessing. It's wanting, hoping, and making a plan based on the information you have.

It's the energy to try.

So why shouldn't someone try Hinduism as apposed to Christianity?

I cannot think of why one shouldn't try Hinduism, except that it's a lot to learn. I enjoyed the little I learned about it, but the thousand names of the God and goddess was a little overwhelming. But in the end, pretty much the same story. Krishna was half man, half god, used love to conquer death, etc, etc, etc

SPG wrote:It is compatible with critical thinking.. It is so called critical thinkers that think faith is believing in spooks.

Maybe those so-called critical thinkers also have a sense of humor.

SPG wrote:I cannot think of why one shouldn't try Hinduism, except that it's a lot to learn. I enjoyed the little I learned about it, but the thousand names of the God and goddess was a little overwhelming. But in the end, pretty much the same story. Krishna was half man, half god, used love to conquer death, etc, etc, etc

One has to choose what to have faith in. Why should one choose one belief over another?

Quasimodo wrote:

SPG wrote:It is compatible with critical thinking.. It is so called critical thinkers that think faith is believing in spooks.

Maybe those so-called critical thinkers also have a sense of humor.

Hawr, Hawr,

Critical thinking is like a mental puberty. Many are so insecure and they want to look cool.

But faith and critical thinking are compatible. Just like manliness and tenderness. At first they seem incompatible, but they can work together.

Themis wrote:

SPG wrote:I cannot think of why one shouldn't try Hinduism, except that it's a lot to learn. I enjoyed the little I learned about it, but the thousand names of the God and goddess was a little overwhelming. But in the end, pretty much the same story. Krishna was half man, half god, used love to conquer death, etc, etc, etc

One has to choose what to have faith in. Why should one choose one belief over another?

Most people don't have to choose. They are born into a faith system and they quickly make it work for them.

While we might think we are looking for truth, really we are looking what the truth can give us. Mostly, that is identity, family, home, purpose, etc.

You can get married and have family in Hindu just as easy as Mormonism, if you can afford the dowry, the wedding, etc. To God, all things are spiritual. So if a person can develop devotion, love, honor, courage, etc, what does it matter where they develop it? But usually a person doesn't choose what faith to practice.

Marriages work better when there is a strong religious component. When the romance thins, if the couple can live together for other reasons for a time then things can work out. But one of the reasons marriages fail do often is because they lack the supporting faith system.

Marriages, without God to watch over, lack the concept of marriage. Without God, marriage is just filing for double occupancy. When things get hard, there is little reason to try harder.

One might choose a faith, I guess, but I think it is hard to rejoin the illusions. Once you have seen through the illusions of Mormonism, there are precious few religions that seem attractive.

SPG wrote:
Most people don't have to choose. They are born into a faith system and they quickly make it work for them.

While we might think we are looking for truth, really we are looking what the truth can give us. Mostly, that is identity, family, home, purpose, etc.

You can get married and have family in Hindu just as easy as Mormonism, if you can afford the dowry, the wedding, etc. To God, all things are spiritual. So if a person can develop devotion, love, honor, courage, etc, what does it matter where they develop it? But usually a person doesn't choose what faith to practice.

Marriages work better when there is a strong religious component. When the romance thins, if the couple can live together for other reasons for a time then things can work out. But one of the reasons marriages fail do often is because they lack the supporting faith system.

Marriages, without God to watch over, lack the concept of marriage. Without God, marriage is just filing for double occupancy. When things get hard, there is little reason to try harder.

One might choose a faith, I guess, but I think it is hard to rejoin the illusions. Once you have seen through the illusions of Mormonism, there are precious few religions that seem attractive.

Keep in mind that these questions are in relation to some religions claims that one needs to have faith in their beliefs in order to be saved. This is why Steelhead defined faith the way he did in these situations.

Themis wrote:
Keep in mind that these questions are in relation to some religions claims that one needs to have faith in their beliefs in order to be saved. This is why Steelhead defined faith the way he did in these situations.

Think of the phrase, "you must have faith in yourself to succeed."

Then give that idea to 10 people. Watch them succeed, then try to teach others that same idea. Then 5 generations later have those people meet.

Even just one generation of success will have discovered "the higher power." That just believing had effect, that letting it go to a higher power often just let's it happen.

Later generations will fight about what higher power is. Some will give it names. All will hope that higher power will give them an edge in conflicts.... And some will notice that more people believe the more likely things are to work out.

Religion is just a natural way of dealing with faith. Once humans invented faith, they gained the powers of God. Wanting, hoping, planning, action, ....rinse and repeat. It is how we do things.

Themis wrote:
So if God won't prove he is communicating to you, why should we accept any terms? Especially since the terms are communicated to you through other people.

This thread has devolved off topic. I have no more interest in it.

SPG wrote:It is compatible with critical thinking.. It is so called critical thinkers that think faith is believing in spooks.

What do you think critical thinking is, then?