Mittens wrote:God is three separate and distinct persons (Father, Son and Holy Spirit ) Man is three separate and distinct parts ( body, soul and Spirit) This is the image which makes us like God 1X1X1= 1
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There is a puzzle here creating confusion. Since when is body soul spirit of a man all the same substance? Well there is some uncertainty about what a soul and spirit are though there is room for people to propose answers as they wish. Still despite different ideas a spirit is not usually thought of as a combination of carbon oxygen nitrogen and other elements as is the body.
Or is the idea of bodies composed of atoms one of those unbiblical sciencey things.
Mittens wrote:God is three separate and distinct persons (Father, Son and Holy Spirit ) Man is three separate and distinct parts ( body, soul and Spirit) This is the image which makes us like God 1X1X1= 1
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There is a puzzle here creating confusion. Since when is body soul spirit of a man all the same substance? Well there is some uncertainty about what a soul and spirit are though there is room for people to propose answers as they wish. Still despite different ideas a spirit is not usually thought of as a combination of carbon oxygen nitrogen and other elements as is the body.
Or is the idea of bodies composed of atoms one of those unbiblical sciencey things.
The trinity is a fiction that people are willing to kill each other over. The concept solves no problems, creates no avenue for research or data, is unfalsifiable. It's an evolved fantasy to obscure numerous logical fallacies. At this point it's basically a feature in marketing that's more sizzle than steak.
Now if humans want to acknowledge that reality is complex, that beings have many constituent and seemingly contrary parts, you will find me in agreement. But the trinity wars are artifacts of cult warfare, tribal identity signifiers without intrinsic content or worth, more valuable as weaponized against competing tribes/factions.
Maksutov wrote:The trinity is a fiction that people are willing to kill each other over. The concept solves no problems, creates no avenue for research or data, is unfalsifiable. It's an evolved fantasy to obscure numerous logical fallacies. At this point it's basically a feature in marketing that's more sizzle than steak.
Now if humans want to acknowledge that reality is complex, that beings have many constituent and seemingly contrary parts, you will find me in agreement. But the trinity wars are artifacts of cult warfare, tribal identity signifiers without intrinsic content or worth, more valuable as weaponized against competing tribes/factions.
Maksukov,
The trinity wars??? sounds like star wars. What specifically are you referring to? I know of nobody willing to kill over the doctrine of the trinity. ( except perhaps some Islamic extremist )
I agree that no objective experiment will determine the accuracy or lack of accuracy for the formulae. On the other hand I have no idea what sort logical fallacies you see the trinity evolving to obscure.
Maksutov wrote:The trinity is a fiction that people are willing to kill each other over. The concept solves no problems, creates no avenue for research or data, is unfalsifiable. It's an evolved fantasy to obscure numerous logical fallacies. At this point it's basically a feature in marketing that's more sizzle than steak.
Now if humans want to acknowledge that reality is complex, that beings have many constituent and seemingly contrary parts, you will find me in agreement. But the trinity wars are artifacts of cult warfare, tribal identity signifiers without intrinsic content or worth, more valuable as weaponized against competing tribes/factions.
Maksukov,
The trinity wars??? sounds like star wars. What specifically are you referring to? I know of nobody willing to kill over the doctrine of the trinity. ( except perhaps some Islamic extremist )
I agree that no objective experiment will determine the accuracy or lack of accuracy for the formulae. On the other hand I have no idea what sort logical fallacies you see the trinity evolving to obscure.
Disagreement with the trinity promulgated in the Constantinian era made people heretics. Heretics were targeted for torture and killing from early on.
There is no unitary Christian view of the trinity. The concept is sectarian, the conflicts are about internal power dynamics and not about divinity, in my opinion.
Ok, so trinity wars refers to the 4 and 5th century Roman Empire and the emperor's desire to hold a fragmenting empire together.
I wonder why people found something worth arguing about there? Why not just say ok whenever the emperor changed and had a different view? This question is a different way of asking what logical fallacies were being covered over by the Trinity doctrine.
Ok, so trinity wars refers to the 4 and 5th century Roman Empire and the emperor's desire to hold a fragmenting empire together.
I wonder why people found something worth arguing about there? Why not just say ok whenever the emperor changed and had a different view? This question is a different way of asking what logical fallacies were being covered over by the Trinity doctrine.
