Mary Magdalene, 1st Apostle?

[_moksha]

Mary traveled with Jesus and helped support his ministry out of her resources. In all four canonical gospels, she is a witness to the crucifixion of Jesus and, in the Synoptic Gospels, she is also present at his burial. All four gospels identify her, either alone or as a member of a larger group of women, as the first witness to the empty tomb, and the first to testify to Jesus's resurrection. For these reasons, she is known in many Christian traditions as the "apostle to the apostles". Mary is a central figure in later apocryphal Gnostic Christian writings, including the Dialogue of the Savior, the Pistis Sophia, the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Philip, and the Gospel of Mary. She may have appeared in other lost Christian writings as well.

Was Mary Magdalene left off the list of recognized apostles because of subsequent male chauvinism?

[_SPG]

Mary traveled with Jesus and helped support his ministry out of her resources. In all four canonical gospels, she is a witness to the crucifixion of Jesus and, in the Synoptic Gospels, she is also present at his burial. All four gospels identify her, either alone or as a member of a larger group of women, as the first witness to the empty tomb, and the first to testify to Jesus's resurrection. For these reasons, she is known in many Christian traditions as the "apostle to the apostles". Mary is a central figure in later apocryphal Gnostic Christian writings, including the Dialogue of the Savior, the Pistis Sophia, the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Philip, and the Gospel of Mary. She may have appeared in other lost Christian writings as well.

Was Mary Magdalene left off the list of recognized apostles because of subsequent male chauvinism?

There was a Gospel of Mary found in the Nag Hammadi library.

Some scholars believe that Mark was actually Mary.

Nicolas Chauvin was closer to 1800 for it because of him.

[_moksha]

Some scholars believe that Mark was actually Mary.

That is an interesting thought.

Nicolas Chauvin was closer to 1800 for it because of him.

Don't quite understand this point.

[_SPG]

Some scholars believe that Mark was actually Mary.

That is an interesting thought.

Nicolas Chauvin was closer to 1800 for it because of him.

Don't quite understand this point.

Before Nicolas Chauvin it was called the Will of God.

[_Maksutov]

Were there traditions of disciples of Jewish teachers being female before her?

[_SPG]

Were there traditions of disciples of Jewish teachers being female before her?

Jesus was an Essense, sort of a fundamentalist Jew.

The idea that Jesus was the child of God, while Mary was still in the temple seems very pagan.

He wasn't like the others, that is for sure. But I'm not sure where Mary came from. She was thought to be a healer, accused of wrong doing, because her craft is easily misunderstood. If so, she was probably educated by some school of thought.

[_Amore]

Some scholars believe that Mark was actually Mary.

I’ve heard that the last supper painting was originally with Mary putting her head on Christ’s shoulder.

[_SPG]

Some scholars believe that Mark was actually Mary.

I’ve heard that the last supper painting was originally with Mary putting her head on Christ’s shoulder.

I have seen other expressions of this. Of course, where did the artist get the idea? Was it common thought in his time? Or did he suggest it himself?

In general, I accept that is was Mary, but impossible to prove.

[Guest]

Some scholars believe that Mark was actually Mary.

I’ve heard that the last supper painting was originally with Mary putting her head on Christ’s shoulder.

In the real painting the figure in question is on the other side of Jesus leaning over in close conversation with Peter. The above image has moved that exact figure to lean on Jesusfrom the other side. That transfer of an image wouuld be quite difficult on a plaster wall much easier with a digital image. There are copies of the painting made soon after its construction. They have the same design as the version on the wall. The painting has a very carefully arranged design to show a particular moment in time and for artistic ,visual effect. Having a person leaning on Jesus like the above image would wreck the design.

[_huckelberry]

Were there traditions of disciples of Jewish teachers being female before her?

Jesus was an Essense, sort of a fundamentalist Jew.

The idea that Jesus was the child of God, while Mary was still in the temple seems very pagan.

He wasn't like the others, that is for sure. But I'm not sure where Mary came from. She was thought to be a healer, accused of wrong doing, because her craft is easily misunderstood. If so, she was probably educated by some school of thought.

I have not seen any evidence beyond the words, what if, to indicate Jesus had a connection to the Essenes. It is true that both were Jewish and lived in the same general area and time. So did the pharisees who shared more with Jesus. The Essenes were acetic Jesus was much the opposite. Essenes seperated from others, Jesus did the opposite.