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Posted: **Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:41 am**

17 Points of the One True Church

1. The one true church must teach that only ONE god exists (Deut. 4:35,39, Deut. 32:39, 1 Kings 8:60, Isa. 43:10, Isa. 44:6,8, Isa. 45:5,21,22, Isa. 46:9, Mark 12:32, 1 Cor. 8:4, etc.

2. The one true church must teach that salvation is “not by works” (Eph. 2:8-9, Tit. 3:5, 2 Tim. 1:9, Rom. 4:1-5, Rom. 11:5,6. etc. etc.)

3. The one true church must teach that the time of “prophets” has ended, and we are under the leadership of Jesus Christ (Heb. 1:1-2).

4. The one true church must teach that church elders must be married, with children, older and mature, and demonstrate an ability to teach (Tit. 1:5-8, 1 TIm. 3:2)

5. The one true church must teach that church deacons must be married, with children, older and mature (1 Tim. 3:12)

6. The one true church must teach that God is invisible (Col. 1:15, 1 Tim. 1:17, Heb. 11:27)

7. The one true church must teach that God is spirit (John 4:24).

8. The one true church must teach that God is not a man (Job 9:32, Num. 23:19, 1 Sam. 15:29).

9. The one true church must teach that humankind are CREATIONS of God, not “children” of God (Gen. 1:27, Gen. 5:1, Isa. 64:8, Mal. 2:10).

10. The one true church must teach that redeemed saints BECOME children of God through ADOPTION (Rom. 8:15, Gal. 4:5, Eph. 1:5).

11. The one true church must pray to Jesus Christ (Acts 7:59, John 20:28).

12. The one true church must be willing to financially support those devoted to ministry (Luke 10:2-7, 1 Cor. 9:7-14, 1 Tim. 5:17-18).

13. The one true church must compare all new claims of revelation with the Bible and reject whatever disagrees ((Gal. 1:8, 1 Thess. 5:21, Acts 17:11, 2 Tim. 3:16).

14. The one true church is that which was established by Jesus, has never been overcome, but has existed on the Earth throughout all generations since Jesus (Matt. 16:18, Eph. 3:21).

15. The one true church must not make the issue of what we eat or drink a requirement of the gospel (Mark 7:18-20, Rom. 14:14-18, Col. 2:13-17).

16. The one true church must teach that God has been God from all eternity (Ps. 90:2, Mal. 3:6, James 1:17).

17. The true church must teach that God does not have a physical body (John 4:24, Luke 24:39, 1 Kings 8:27, John 1:18, 1 Tim. 1:17).

Posted: **Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:52 am**

Mittens, these seem like unusual checklist items for an exorbitant claim. Are these the tenets of a faith tradition you have joined?

Posted: **Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:06 pm**

Every religion says they're the true one. They each have their holy books and revelations, their holy buildings and traditions. Religion has often been used to conquer and colonize and control other people and religions notoriously split from each other and fight each other--just like ordinary humans do. A "true church" is still a false reality invented by humans who pretend they are gods or talk to god. It is especially useful in giving people of low self esteem a feeling of superiority. This is an illusion that depends on remaining in a cult-like situation to maintain. You may enjoy your opiate of the masses but you are unable to live without it--that's how opiates are: addictive things which depend on others to obtain, that can overwhelm your whole life and drive your family away. Didn't Jesus say that those who would not leave their families for him were not worthy of him? Cult leader. Drug dealer.

Posted: **Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:54 pm**

moksha wrote:Mittens, these seem like unusual checklist items for an exorbitant claim. Are these the tenets of a faith tradition you have joined?

This is the list of my Churches tenants

https://i.imgur.com/lS6Tti8.jpg

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:55 pm**

Mittens wrote:
moksha wrote:Mittens, these seem like unusual checklist items for an exorbitant claim. Are these the tenets of a faith tradition you have joined?

This is the list of my Churches tenants

https://i.imgur.com/lS6Tti8.jpg

Do they include all the Commandments?

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:29 pm**

Hey Mittens

Mittens wrote:17 Points of the One True Church

1. The one true church must teach that only ONE god exists (Deut. 4:35,39, Deut. 32:39, 1 Kings 8:60, Isa. 43:10, Isa. 44:6,8, Isa. 45:5,21,22, Isa. 46:9, Mark 12:32, 1 Cor. 8:4, etc.

2. The one true church must teach that salvation is “not by works” (Eph. 2:8-9, Tit. 3:5, 2 Tim. 1:9, Rom. 4:1-5, Rom. 11:5,6. etc. etc.)

3. The one true church must teach that the time of “prophets” has ended, and we are not under the leadership of Jesus Christ (Heb. 1:1-2).

4. The one true church must teach that church elders must be married, with children, older and mature, and demonstrate an ability to teach (Tit. 1:5-8, 1 TIm. 3:2)

5. The one true church must teach that church deacons must be married, with children, older and mature (1 Tim. 3:12)

6. The one true church must teach that God is invisible (Col. 1:15, 1 Tim. 1:17, Heb. 11:27)

7. The one true church must teach that God is spirit (John 4:24).

8. The one true church must teach that God is not a man (Job 9:32, Num. 23:19, 1 Sam. 15:29).

9. The one true church must teach that humankind are CREATIONS of God, not “children” of God (Gen. 1:27, Gen. 5:1, Isa. 64:8, Mal. 2:10).

10. The one true church must teach that redeemed saints BECOME children of God through ADOPTION (Rom. 8:15, Gal. 4:5, Eph. 1:5).

11. The one true church must pray to Jesus Christ (Acts 7:59, John 20:28).

12. The one true church must be willing to financially support those devoted to ministry (Luke 10:2-7, 1 Cor. 9:7-14, 1 Tim. 5:17-18).

13. The one true church must compare all new claims of revelation with the Bible and reject whatever disagrees ((Gal. 1:8, 1 Thess. 5:21, Acts 17:11, 2 Tim. 3:16).

14. The one true church is that which was established by Jesus, has never been overcome, but has existed on the Earth throughout all generations since Jesus (Matt. 16:18, Eph. 3:21).

15. The one true church must not make the issue of what we eat or drink a requirement of the gospel (Mark 7:18-20, Rom. 14:14-18, Col. 2:13-17).

16. The one true church must teach that God has been God from all eternity (Ps. 90:2, Mal. 3:6, James 1:17).

17. The true church must teach that God does not have a physical body (John 4:24, Luke 24:39, 1 Kings 8:27, John 1:18, 1 Tim. 1:17).

Wow - This sounds like a very special church!

I know it would be almost impossible to compete with a 17 point spectacular church like this - but I do want to give you a mere 3 points for you to weigh and measure against this marvelous organization you provided.

1. Jesus was crucified.
2. Jesus rose from the dead.
3. Jesus is God.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:18 pm**

https://i.imgur.com/lS6Tti8.jpg

Do they include all the Commandments?

Does The Mormon Articles of Faith include the Commandments ?

:lol:

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:02 pm**

Do they include all the Commandments?

Does The Mormon Articles of Faith include the Commandments ?

That's a different question, isn't it? Are you afraid to answer what I asked?

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:45 pm**

Maksutov wrote:
Mittens wrote:This is the list of my Churches tenants

https://i.imgur.com/lS6Tti8.jpg

Do they include all the Commandments?

I am a little confused by this question. All I find with the link is one page statement with a short paraphrase of apostles creed with a new opening statement about the inerrancy of scriptures, nothing about commandments.

Though there could be some important questions about inerrancy and commandments.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:10 pm**

If mittens is speaking of a one true church perhaps there should be clarification of inerrancy of scripture.

"Believe the Bible is the word of God fully inspired and without error in the original manuscripts. Written under the inspriation of the Holy Spirit and having supreme authority in matters of faith and conduct."

Conduct is the subject of commandments. Consider ," remember the sabbath day and keep it holy." Is it important to do no work on Saturday?

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