LittleNipper wrote:Those who wrote the Bible never became monetarily wealthy on that account ---------------- This is one thing that cannot be said of Joseph Smith. Smith certainly profited monetarily, in notoriety, and power.
The Bible writers didn't make the money. The later Bible thumpers did. Ever heard of the Prosperity Gospel? Kenneth Copeland? Jan Crouch? Benny Hinn? Joel Osteen? Creflo Dollar? I could go on.
But that is just them. They are individuals who gather a following, and the followers heap money on them. Is this true of every minister or ministry? Obviously not! This is what happens when men take their eyes off GOD and try to keep up with and embrace the "Jones' " of this world.
Maksutov wrote: The Bible writers didn't make the money. The later Bible thumpers did. Ever heard of the Prosperity Gospel? Kenneth Copeland? Jan Crouch? Benny Hinn? Joel Osteen? Creflo Dollar? I could go on.
But that is just them. They are individuals who gather a following, and the followers heap money on them. Is this true of every minister or ministry? Obviously not! This is what happens when men take their eyes off GOD and try to keep up with and embrace the "Jones' " of this world.
But God doesn't prevent it and even allows it. Other Christians don't speak out much about it either. Looks like Satan moves among the Christians even more than among the atheists. Rich men buying their way into the kingdom of heaven, like our president. The temple ceremony pastor even said, "You can buy anything in this world for money."
LittleNipper wrote:But that is just them. They are individuals who gather a following, and the followers heap money on them. Is this true of every minister or ministry? Obviously not! This is what happens when men take their eyes off GOD and try to keep up with and embrace the "Jones' " of this world.
But God doesn't prevent it and even allows it. Other Christians don't speak out much about it either. Looks like Satan moves among the Christians even more than among the atheists. Rich men buying their way into the kingdom of heaven, like our president. The temple ceremony pastor even said, "You can buy anything in this world for money."
I do, and I'm a Christian. It's harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than a camel through the eye of a needle. The President isn't buying his way into heaven. Yes, you can buy nearly anything in this world for money; however, you cannot take it with you into the next.
LittleNipper wrote:I do, and I'm a Christian. It's harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than a camel through the eye of a needle. The President isn't buying his way into heaven. Yes, you can buy nearly anything in this world for money; however, you cannot take it with you into the next.
I think the Christians ought to clean up their own house before they go preaching to others. They've given in to the moneychangers and followed Satan in seeking power in the world that Jesus refused. Especially the ones surrounding the president. They excuse his breaking of every commandment because they can gain power and glory through him. Satanic.
LittleNipper wrote: I do, and I'm a Christian. It's harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than a camel through the eye of a needle. The President isn't buying his way into heaven. Yes, you can buy nearly anything in this world for money; however, you cannot take it with you into the next.
I think the Christians ought to clean up their own house before they go preaching to others. They've given in to the moneychangers and followed Satan in seeking power in the world that Jesus refused. Especially the ones surrounding the president. They excuse his breaking of every commandment because they can gain power and glory through him. Satanic.
Personally, I feel strongly that there is much more going on here than meets the eye. There are allegations going all around. The simple fact is that there were two candidates running for President. The one presented himself as a political outsider who said he had the business savvy to get the U.S. economy back on track. The other had enough social reforms to turn this country finally into a SOCIALISTIC State. The one stated that he no longer believed that abortion was the way to go. The other embraced both abortion as a handy means of "Family Planning," and the woman's prerogative. The one questioned the logic of "gay" marriage, while the other endorsed it and even promoted it as a state training mandate. The one divorced and remarried with alleged sexual improprieties. The other has been alleged to have had a lesbian affair and remained married an individual who used his power to engage in sexual activity in the oval office. The one expects that nations to whom we give support should reciprocate with factual information regarding improprieties of American citizens either acting on behalf of our nation or to line their own pockets at America's expense... The other allowed an American Embassy to fend for itself on her watch and appears to have been involved in a very seedy real estate and perhaps connected to the deaths of several individuals. Trump was and remains the lesser of two evils, and he also moved the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem --- and this in itself indicates that GOD allowed Trump to be President to further His will (Hillary would not have done such a thing and in fact appears highly pro Palestinian).
Maksutov wrote: I think the Christians ought to clean up their own house before they go preaching to others. They've given in to the moneychangers and followed Satan in seeking power in the world that Jesus refused. Especially the ones surrounding the president. They excuse his breaking of every commandment because they can gain power and glory through him. Satanic.
Personally, I feel strongly that there is much more going on here than meets the eye. There are allegations going all around. The simple fact is that there were two candidates running for President. The one presented himself as a political outsider who said he had the business savvy to get the U.S. economy back on track. The other had enough social reforms to turn this country finally into a SOCIALISTIC State. The one stated that he no longer believed that abortion was the way to go. The other embraced both abortion as a handy means of "Family Planning," and the woman's prerogative. The one questioned the logic of "gay" marriage, while the other endorsed it and even promoted it as a state training mandate. The one divorced and remarried with alleged sexual improprieties. The other has been alleged to have had a lesbian affair and remained married an individual who used his power to engage in sexual activity in the oval office. The one expects that nations to whom we give support should reciprocate with factual information regarding improprieties of American citizens either acting on behalf of our nation or to line their own pockets at America's expense... The other allowed an American Embassy to fend for itself on her watch and appears to have been involved in a very seedy real estate and perhaps connected to the deaths of several individuals. Trump was and remains the lesser of two evils, and he also moved the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem --- and this in itself indicates that GOD allowed Trump to be President to further His will (Hillary would not have done such a thing and in fact appears highly pro Palestinian).
So corruption is okay if the corrupt also help Christians? That makes the Christians also corrupt. It isn't a one way thing. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. Let in enough corruption and you undo everything since Luther, maybe even since Jesus.
Consider the possibility that both parties are of this world and not to be defended. Both candidates were unfit. Lose/lose. It's my theory.
LittleNipper wrote: Trump was and remains the lesser of two evils, and he also moved the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem --- and this in itself indicates that GOD allowed Trump to be President to further His will...
The Evangelical God is like best buds with Trump. Dash those babies against the rock and widen the eye of the needle to accommodate a Creflo Dollar jet!
Maksutov wrote:So corruption is okay if the corrupt also help Christians? That makes the Christians also corrupt. It isn't a one way thing. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. Let in enough corruption and you undo everything since Luther, maybe even since Jesus.
Consider the possibility that both parties are of this world and not to be defended. Both candidates were unfit. Lose/lose. It's my theory.
Maksutov, unless I misunderstood you , you recently proposed that due to democratic corruption it is not worth it to vote against Trump. The above sounds like it may be following the same idea? Is there a difference between your support of Trump and Nippers support?
Maksutov wrote:So corruption is okay if the corrupt also help Christians? That makes the Christians also corrupt. It isn't a one way thing. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. Let in enough corruption and you undo everything since Luther, maybe even since Jesus.
Consider the possibility that both parties are of this world and not to be defended. Both candidates were unfit. Lose/lose. It's my theory.
Maksutov, unless I misunderstood you , you recently proposed that due to democratic corruption it is not worth it to vote against Trump. The above sounds like it may be following the same idea? Is there a difference between your support of Trump and Nippers support?
Really? Show me. Every day I post stuff to encourage people to vote against Trump.
Hillary was corrupt. Maybe not as corrupt as Trump but she played fast and loose with folks through the Global Initiative while she was Secretary of State. Did she do all the things Alex Jones and company accuse her of? Hell no. The whole Clinton body count thing is as credible as alien reptiles running the Pentagon.
Is there Democratic party corruption? Yep. Republican party corruption? Yep. Every group that obtains power is prone to it. Eternal vigilance required. Christian institutions, atheist institutions, Muslim institutions, all are run by humans and subject to human errors. That doesn't mean we have to decide to accept them. I know that humans kill each other and always have but I don't shrug at murder.
huckelberry wrote:Maksutov, unless I misunderstood you , you recently proposed that due to democratic corruption it is not worth it to vote against Trump. The above sounds like it may be following the same idea? Is there a difference between your support of Trump and Nippers support?
Really? Show me. Every day I post stuff to encourage people to vote against Trump.
Hillary was corrupt. Maybe not as corrupt as Trump but she played fast and loose with folks through the Global Initiative while she was Secretary of State. Did she do all the things Alex Jones and company accuse her of? Hell no. The whole Clinton body count thing is as credible as alien reptiles running the Pentagon.
Is there Democratic party corruption? Yep. Republican party corruption? Yep. Every group that obtains power is prone to it. Eternal vigilance required. Christian institutions, atheist institutions, Muslim institutions, all are run by humans and subject to human errors. That doesn't mean we have to decide to accept them. I know that humans kill each other and always have but I don't shrug at murder.
And neither do I shrug; however, I will not accept a government that is bent on telling me what I should accept and not accept. Top Democrats openly talk about ending tax-exempt status for churches, synagogues, religious schools — anything connected with God. Beto O'Rourke told Democrats if any churches back traditional marriage — and oppose gay marriage — they should be punished. They should lose their tax-exempt status. It is not supposed to be government in spite of the people. I do not trust the Democrats. Kennedy was in office when prayer and Bible reading were removed from public schools. The Democrats were the ones who assumed governmental responsibility of public education in 1946 and taking it from real Community activism. No one imagined that the 10 Commandments would be on the chopping block at that time--- no one except the socialists and liberals who began to carve away at freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom from oppression. It's odd that some people can say whatever they wish and others are told to do so is not politically correct. Some individuals don't like Trump because he threatens their agenda. Not ALL behavior is valuable to a community. If one wishes to live like a pig, he must first reduce the community to a pigsty, and to do that one must work to eliminate the influence of those that equate a pigsty with garbage.
Rich men buying their way into the kingdom of heaven, like our president. The temple ceremony pastor even said, "You can buy anything in this world for money." 
