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"Thus the scriptures of both hemispheres and in all ages of ante-meridian time bore solemn testimony to the certainty of Messiah’s advent; thus the holy prophets of old voiced the word of revelation predicting the coming of the world’s King and Lord, through whom alone is salvation provided, and redemption from death made sure.

It is a characteristic of prophets sent of God that they possess and proclaim a personal assurance of the Christ, “for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”

Not a word of inspired prophecy relating to the great event has been found void. The literal fulfilment of the predictions is ample attestation of their origin in divine revelation, and proof conclusive of the divinity of Him whose coming was so abundantly foretold."

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Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:34 pm
"Thus the scriptures of both hemispheres and in all ages of ante-meridian time bore solemn testimony to the certainty of Messiah’s advent; thus the holy prophets of old voiced the word of revelation predicting the coming of the world’s King and Lord, through whom alone is salvation provided, and redemption from death made sure.

It is a characteristic of prophets sent of God that they possess and proclaim a personal assurance of the Christ, “for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”

Not a word of inspired prophecy relating to the great event has been found void. The literal fulfilment of the predictions is ample attestation of their origin in divine revelation, and proof conclusive of the divinity of Him whose coming was so abundantly foretold."

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The above post is nothing more than SPAM. It is abusing the board.

I've complained again to the moderator and request action be taken against this spammer.

She is abusing the board.
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Cut and pasting of Mormon propaganda is nothing more than SPAM!

Elizabeth is spamming the board.
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"The Antiquity of Sacrifice as a Prototype of Christ’s Atoning Death.—While the Biblical record expressly attests the offering of sacrifices long prior to Israel’s exodus from Egypt—e.g. by Abel and by Cain (Genesis 4:3, 4); by Noah after the deluge (Genesis 8:20); by Abraham (Genesis 22:2, 13); by Jacob (Genesis 31:54; 46:1)—it is silent concerning the divine origin of sacrifice as a propitiatory requirement prefiguring the atoning death of Jesus Christ. The difficulty of determining time and circumstance, under which the offering of symbolical sacrifices originated amongst mankind, is recognized by all investigators save those who admit the validity of modern revelation. The necessity of assuming early instruction from God to man on the subject has been asserted by many Bible scholars. Thus, the writer of the article “Sacrifice” in the Cassell Bible Dictionary says: “The idea of sacrifice is prominent throughout the scriptures, and one of the most ancient and widely recognized in the rites of religion throughout the world. There is also a remarkable similarity in the developments and applications of the idea. On these and other accounts it has been judiciously inferred that sacrifice formed an element in the primeval worship of man; and that its universality is not merely an indirect argument for the unity of the human race, but an illustration and confirmation of the first inspired pages of the world’s history. The notion of sacrifice can hardly be viewed as a product of unassisted human nature, and must therefore be traced to a higher source and viewed as a divine revelation to primitive man.”

Smith’s Dict. of the Bible presents the following: “In tracing the history of sacrifice from its first beginning to its perfect development in the Mosaic ritual, we are at once met by the long-disputed question as to the origin of sacrifice, whether it arose from a natural instinct of man, sanctioned and guided by God, or was the subject of some distinct primeval revelation. There can be no doubt that sacrifice was sanctioned by God’s Law, with a special, typical reference to the Atonement of Christ; its universal prevalence, independent of, and often opposed to, man’s natural reasonings on his relation to God, shows it to have been primeval, and deeply rooted in the instincts of humanity. Whether it was first enjoined by an external command, or was based on that sense of sin and lost communion with God, which is stamped by His hand on the heart of man—is an historical question, perhaps insoluble.”

The difficulty vanishes, and the “historical question” as to the origin of sacrifice is definitely solved by the revelations of God in the current dispensation, whereby parts of the record of Moses—not contained in the Bible—have been restored to human knowledge. The scripture quoted in the text (pp. 43, 44) makes clear the fact that the offering of sacrifices was required of Adam after his transgression, and that the significance of the divinely established requirement was explained in fulness to the patriarch of the race. The shedding of the blood of animals in sacrifice to God, as a prototype “of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten of the Father,” dates from the time immediately following the fall. Its origin is based on a specific revelation to Adam. See Moses 5:5–8."

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Shulem wrote:
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Cut and pasting of Mormon propaganda is nothing more than SPAM!

Elizabeth is spamming the board.
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"Jacob’s Prophecy Concerning “Shiloh.”—
The prediction of the patriarch Jacob—that the sceptre should not depart from Judah before the coming of Shiloh—has given rise to much disputation among Bible students.
Some insist that “Shiloh” is the name of a place and not that of a person.
That there was a place known by that name is beyond question (see Joshua 18:1; 19:51; 21:2; 22:9; 1 "Samuel 1:3; Jeremiah 7:12); but the name occurring in Genesis 49:10 is plainly that of a person.
It should be known that the use of the word in the King James or authorized version of the Bible is held to be correct by many eminent authorities. Thus, in Dummelow’s Commentary on the Holy Bible, we read:
“This verse has always been regarded by both Jews and Christians as a remarkable prophecy of the coming of the Messiah. … On the rendering given above, the whole verse foretells that Judah would retain authority until the advent of the rightful ruler, the Messiah, to whom all peoples would gather.
And, broadly speaking, it may be said that the last traces of Jewish legislative power (as vested in the Sanhedrin) did not disappear until the coming of Christ and the destruction of Jerusalem, from which time His kingdom was set up among men.”

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Shulem wrote:
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I second this.

Thanks. I've not heard back from the moderator yet. There is probably some consultation taking place behind the scenes. Shades is going to have to weight in. But really, when you think about it, all that cut and paste really amounts to nothing more than spam because it's not backed with content from the poster. She is simply spamming the board and is doing a good job at that. She needs to be shut down or conform her ways and provide actual material content of her own.
I think I find General Conference more entertaining than these posts.
And he made from one man every nation of mankind… having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place, that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him. Yet he is actually not far from each one of us.
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Shulem, Philo, and msnobody are on my foes list.
Such a handy service :D
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"Adam Clarke, in his exhaustive Bible Commentary, briefly analyzes the objections urged against the admissibility of this passage as applying to the Messiah’s advent, and dismisses them all as unfounded. His conclusion as to the meaning of the passage is thus worded: “Judah shall continue a distinct tribe until the Messiah shall come; and it did so; and after His coming it was confounded with the others, so that all distinction has been ever since lost.”

Prof. Douglas, as cited in Smith’s Dictionary, “claims that something of Judah’s sceptre still remained, a total eclipse being no proof that the day is at an end—that the proper fulfillment of the prophecy did not begin till David’s time, and is consummated in Christ according to Luke 1:32, 33.”

The accepted meaning of the word by derivation is “Peaceable,” and this is applicable to the attributes of the Christ, who in Isaiah 9:6, is designated the Prince of Peace.

Eusebius, who lived between 260 and 339 A.D., and is known in ecclesiastical history as Bishop of Cæsarea, wrote: “At the time that Herod was king, who was the first foreigner that reigned over the Jewish people, the prophecy recorded by Moses received it fulfillment, viz. ‘That a prince should not fail of Judah, nor a ruler from his loins, until He should come for whom it is reserved, the expectation of nations.’” (The quoted passage is founded on the Septuagint rendering of Genesis 49:10.)

Some critics have held that in Jacob’s use of the word “Shiloh” he did not intend it as a name or proper noun at all. The writer of the article “Shiloh” in Cassell’s Bible Dictionary says: “The preponderance of evidence is in favor of the Messianic interpretation, but opinions are very divided respecting the retention of the word ‘Shiloh’ as a proper name. … Notwithstanding all the objections that are urged against it being so regarded, we are of the opinion that it is rightly considered to be a proper name, and that the English version represents the true sense of the passage. We recommend those who wish to enter more fully into a question which cannot well be discussed without Hebrew criticism, to the excellent notes upon Genesis 49:10 in the ‘Commentary on the Pentateuch’ by Keil and Delitzsch. Here the text is thus rendered: “The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor the ruler’s staff from between his feet, till Shiloh come, and the willing obedience of the nations be to him.”

“Notwithstanding the slight put upon the Messianic interpretation by some writers, even those from whom we should scarcely expect it, we see this explanation confirmed and not weakened in the events of history. The text is not taken to mean that Judah should at no time be without a royal ruler of his own, but that the regal power should not finally cease from Judah until Shiloh had come. The objections founded on the Babylonian captivity, and similar intermissions, are of no force, because it is the complete and final termination which is pointed out, and that only happened after the time of Christ.” See further The Book of Prophecy, by G. Smith, L.L.D., p. 320. See also Compendium of the Doctrines of the Gospel, by Franklin D. Richards and James A. Little, article “Christ’s First Coming.”

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Elizabeth wrote:
Sun Jun 05, 2022 5:53 am
Shulem, Philo, and msnobody are on my foes list.
Such a handy service :D

And Elizabeth continues to spam the board with cut and paste materials with no useful commentary or response.

Elizabeth is a SPAMMER and is abusing the board.

Again, I move that her spam material be moved to a spam box.
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