Historical Predynastic Egypt vs. Book of Abraham False Narrative

[I Have Questions]

Someone claiming to hear supernatural voices commanding them to sacrifice their child are a danger to society and should be locked up. The SLC LDS Church lauds Abraham for his willingness to follow the instructions of the voices in his head. They call it having faith. That should give members pause for thought.

Indeed, the story of Abraham being willing to murder his own son in cold blood to appease his imagined god is really sick and should turn anyone's stomach. The story in the Book of Mormon about Nephi cutting off the head of Laban is a low point for Book of Mormon morality lessons. It's just bad stuff. It was the author's (Smith) way of experiencing what it was like to kill. Smith was writing his own personal fantasy! But happiness and good living is available and found outside the realms of organized religion. Religionist reject that concept and threaten nonbelievers with hell or a lower kingdom if they refuse to join their organized religion. But today, more and more people are waking up and realizing that religion is not what it's cracked up to be.

A monumental problem for the Mormons is to try and figure out how the pyramids were built long before so-called lady "Egyptus" discovered the land of Egypt and established the first government.

To this, the Mormons have said NOTHING.

Dead silence!

Here’s a great question to ask a Mormon - “If your spouse takes one of your children into the yard, holds a kitchen knife up and is ready to sacrifice them, because they say God has told them to do it…would you admire their faithfulness?”

[Shulem]

Here’s a great question to ask a Mormon - “If your spouse takes one of your children into the yard, holds a kitchen knife up and is ready to sacrifice them, because they say God has told them to do it…would you admire their faithfulness?”

I would also ask, “How’s it chronologically possible that Noah’s Greek-named daughter-in-law ‘Egyptus’ was said to discover the land of Egypt hundreds of years after the Egyptians built pyramids in Egypt?”

Does John Gee know the answer? I trust his colleagues would love to hear him defend the Book of Abraham on that account! Gee and his fellow apologists hide behind this issue like cowards who are too afraid to face the truth. And Book of Abraham critics have failed to emphasize this point! But no longer will this slide.

SHULEM IS HERE!

Please check the box that applies:

[ ] Fake Egypt explained in the Book of Abraham backed by crackpot apologists
[ ] Real Egypt explained by conventional Egyptology

[I Have Questions]

It is telling that Gee separated his Book of Abraham apologetics, from his professional Egyptology environment. If he truly believed the Book of Abraham was real he’d have spent a lot of his professional career showing his colleagues this new information.

[Shulem]

It is telling that Gee separated his Book of Abraham apologetics, from his professional Egyptology environment. If he truly believed the Book of Abraham was real he’d have spent a lot of his professional career showing his colleagues this new information.

Exactly! Gee and his apologetic colleagues have nothing to show or account for in support of chapter one having anything to do with *how* and *when* Egypt was originally founded.

Checkmate!

And, it has been my pleasure to study all aspects of the Book of Abraham and to be the one to destroy it on this message board. I’ve been studying the Book of Abraham longer than John Gee and I know what I’m talking about. I know the facts!

[Shulem]

And I also made the decision to reject Book of Abraham claims that Egypt was founded by a woman in 2300 BC and opt to go with conventional Egyptology.

How about you?

There are some unresolved issues there. Short chronology vs. accepted chronology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chronology_(Rohl)

I can let that sit on a shelf for the sake of what I see as more important things. Things that, for me, seem to lead towards salvation rather than damnation.

Regards,
MG

I've already expressed my views in regard to the Book of Abraham elsewhere.

Oh, I forgot to mention how the views you've expressed elsewhere concerning the Book of Abraham say nothing about the main point I've brought up which is that ancient Egypt cannot fit into Smith's biblical timeline. I acknowledged that you brought up David Rohl and his so-called New Chronology which I suspect you know very little about. Thank goodness I gave you my personal links that put things in perspective when it comes to reducing time off the time-line and thus shorten the chronology.

You used Rohl's to define "unresolved issues" that might lend support to a shorter chronology in favor of Smith's in the Book of Abraham. But in doing so you clearly tipped your hand in showing you don't know what you're talking about and possibly used deception in your post to point readers away from the truth.

<celestial snip>

Anyway, here's Rohl and see for yourself that his "unresolved issues" do nothing to help the Book of Abraham. You see, even Rohl supports an Egypt that greatly predates the Egypt of Smith's making.

[Shulem]

The Church officially supports the false chronology outlined in their scriptures, official periodicals, and teachings.

Thank you very much, President, for such a wonderful opening. Brothers and sisters, 215 years ago, a little boy was born to Joseph and Lucy Mack Smith in Vermont in a region known as New England in the northeastern United States.

Joseph and Lucy Mack believed in Jesus Christ, studied the holy scriptures, sincerely prayed, and walked with faith in God.

They named their new baby son Joseph Smith Jr.

Of the Smith family, Brigham Young said: “The Lord had his eye upon [Joseph Smith], and upon his father, and upon his father’s father, and upon their progenitors clear back to Abraham, and from Abraham to the flood, from the flood to Enoch and from Enoch to Adam. He has watched that family and that blood as it has circulated from its fountain to the birth of that man. [Joseph Smith] was foreordained in eternity.”

Mormons are taught that all of Egyptian history previous to the time of Abraham can be squeezed into the period between the flood and when Abram went into Egypt. That is impossible. Ancient Egypt is far older than Joseph Smith ever imagined. But even today, Mormons continue to preach the fanatical fantasy outlined in chapter one of the Book of Abraham.

[bill4long]

The Church officially supports the false chronology outlined in their scriptures, official periodicals, and teachings.

Thank you very much, President, for such a wonderful opening. Brothers and sisters, 215 years ago, a little boy was born to Joseph and Lucy Mack Smith in Vermont in a region known as New England in the northeastern United States.

Joseph and Lucy Mack believed in Jesus Christ, studied the holy scriptures, sincerely prayed, and walked with faith in God.

They named their new baby son Joseph Smith Jr.

Of the Smith family, Brigham Young said: “The Lord had his eye upon [Joseph Smith], and upon his father, and upon his father’s father, and upon their progenitors clear back to Abraham, and from Abraham to the flood, from the flood to Enoch and from Enoch to Adam. He has watched that family and that blood as it has circulated from its fountain to the birth of that man. [Joseph Smith] was foreordained in eternity.”

Mormons are taught that all of Egyptian history previous to the time of Abraham can be squeezed into the period between the flood and when Abram went into Egypt. That is impossible. Ancient Egypt is far older than Joseph Smith ever imagined. But even today, Mormons continue to preach the fanatical fantasy outlined in chapter one of the Book of Abraham.

Unfortunately, Mormons are not the only ones who embrace the fiction. The early Egyptian dynasties kept exceedingly detailed records, particularly of commerce, to the point of obsession, that spanned through the time period where the alledged global flood occurred that supposedly killed all humans and land animals except for a small handful. Yet no gaps exist in the Egyptian records. As with all of the main stories in the Torah, the flood is fictional etiological mythology.

Edit: just saw your timeline. There ya go. But some people will still "believe."

[Shulem]

But some people will still "believe."

Mormons pick and choose what they are willing to believe and those things they cannot accept they put on a shelf. Not all Mormons are willing to hand Joseph Smith a blank check.

For example, see here:

I can let that sit on a shelf for the sake of what I see as more important things.

Thus we see, MG is willing to take certain revelations tendered by the Translator-Smith and put them on a "shelf" of unbelief.

How do you think Joseph Smith of Nauvoo would react to MG's apostate (unbelief) behavior?