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Multiple Mortal Probations

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:35 pm
by Ramus_Stein
Thanks to the great minds at DiscussMormonism.com, I have a new blog entry on multiple mortal probations:

https://steinramus.wixsite.com/restorat ... probations
If Joseph Smith believed that Michael was an exalted being--a god--who voluntarily became the mortal Adam in order to initiate the human family on earth, then why not also Gabriel? Joseph Smith loved patterns. He believed that there was a divine order of things and that events followed certain patterns. What God had approved in the past, he would surely do again, especially in the last days. Part of this eternal order of things may have been the introduction of key exalted figures, such as Michael/Adam, Jehovah/Jesus, and Gabriel/Noah, in order to undertake special missions that would bring about the salvation and exaltation of the human family. It is possible that these exalted beings who laid down their lives voluntarily were thought to be the same as the heads of dispensations, including Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Joseph Smith himself.

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:06 pm
by Kishkumen
I look forward to reading this, Ramus. You may have something here. I am a little surprised and skeptical. Multiple mortal probations in 1830? I dunno. Seems somewhat unlikely to me. But, then, there may have been some earlier idea he had along these lines that allowed for what we see in the case of Gabriel that was later expanded. I just can't see the fully formed idea being present that early on. I don't think Smith plotted out his doctrinal views like Rowling and the Harry Potter series.

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:57 pm
by Ramus_Stein
Kishkumen wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:06 pm
I look forward to reading this, Ramus. You may have something here. I am a little surprised and skeptical. Multiple mortal probations in 1830? I dunno. Seems somewhat unlikely to me. But, then, there may have been some earlier idea he had along these lines that allowed for what we see in the case of Gabriel that was later expanded. I just can't see the fully formed idea being present that early on. I don't think Smith plotted out his doctrinal views like Rowling and the Harry Potter series.
Fair enough, Kishkumen. I am glad you are getting something out of my posts, but I expect that there will be a good deal of skepticism about my hypothesis. I am feeling my way along as I go and putting things together bit by bit. If I am right, then the evidence that I encounter will support my hypothesis. One thing I do not count on is the standard LDS interpretation of things to adequately explain it all.

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:16 pm
by Rjparkdo
I find this an interesting topic, and one I consider as well. FYI, Julie Rowe has done a number of posts/podcasts on this topic as well.