Fictitious Priesthood Ordination Ages of the Patriarchs NOW Exposed!

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Re: Fictitious Priesthood Ordination Ages of the Patriarchs NOW Exposed!

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Ryan Larsen wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:37 pm
Shulem wrote:
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Clearly you can see that the ages Smith used for priesthood ordination don’t follow a consistent methodology and one number suddenly is better than another number for no reason at all. From what I see in the manuscripts there is truly a sense of disjointed inconsistency.
It does look like there’s more going on than meets the eye. I just don’t know what that is.

Yes, there is more going on. Apparently there is more going on than the scholars at the Joseph Smith Papers are able to determine, but never fear, Shulem is here, and I know what's going on.

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Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:36 am
So, this thread is really, really cool, except for the part where you bring in the same tired complaints about Joseph Smith messing up. Joseph Smith was playing around with numerology, which is obvious as early as the Book of Mormon. It is great to see you work all of this out because, with the right background knowledge, you will start to understand why it is Joseph Smith was doing what he was doing, not just that he was doing it.

It would be nice if scholars would take up the issues I’ve raised in this thread. Clearly, we can see that the documents in question were working papers in the hands of the editor and we all know the Editor in Chief was none other than the prophet himself. Those were his revelations. Those were his papers. Those were his revisions. Who other than Joseph Smith would correct Joseph Smith? Only Joseph can edit Joseph and that is an important point of this thread.

The documents in questions were not meant for the public eye. They were the personal papers of the prophet. It was his work. It shows how his revelations were recorded and certain revisions to them as he played around with the numbers in making his “numerology work”. It would be nice if Dan Vogel were to chime in. I think if others were to take this up there could be some interesting questions formulated that would target Smith’s motivations and perhaps uncover more of the mysteries on what Smith was thinking. THAT is something biographers should consider.

I’m alone in my lonely thread. Oh well. I’m fine with that too. I really don’t need anyone anyway. I do well all by myself. Hey, I can hear an echo in here. lol

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Re: Fictitious Priesthood Ordination Ages of the Patriarchs NOW Exposed!

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Shulem wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 1:12 pm
Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:36 am
So, this thread is really, really cool, except for the part where you bring in the same tired complaints about Joseph Smith messing up. Joseph Smith was playing around with numerology, which is obvious as early as the Book of Mormon. It is great to see you work all of this out because, with the right background knowledge, you will start to understand why it is Joseph Smith was doing what he was doing, not just that he was doing it.

It would be nice if scholars would take up the issues I’ve raised in this thread. Clearly, we can see that the documents in question were working papers in the hands of the editor and we all know the Editor in Chief was none other than the prophet himself. Those were his revelations. Those were his papers. Those were his revisions. Who other than Joseph Smith would correct Joseph Smith? Only Joseph can edit Joseph and that is an important point of this thread.

The documents in questions were not meant for the public eye. They were the personal papers of the prophet. It was his work. It shows how his revelations were recorded and certain revisions to them as he played around with the numbers in making his “numerology work”. It would be nice if Dan Vogel were to chime in. I think if others were to take this up there could be some interesting questions formulated that would target Smith’s motivations and perhaps uncover more of the mysteries on what Smith was thinking. THAT is something biographers should consider.

I’m alone in my lonely thread. Oh well. I’m fine with that too. I really don’t need anyone anyway. I do well all by myself. Hey, I can hear an echo in here. lol

Hellooooooooooooooooooooo
Paul, I don't have a comment yet, but I have shared it with Mike Marquardt. We have discussed this several times. I think he will appreciate it too.
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dan vogel wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 10:01 pm
Paul, I don't have a comment yet, but I have shared it with Mike Marquardt. We have discussed this several times. I think he will appreciate it too.

Oh wonderful. Thank you. And come back anytime and discuss it. Or simply add material and thought or information to the pile. As always, you are welcome here. You can even start your own thread if you feel that necessary. I hope you have found my comments and presentation helpful and informative.
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Bumped for Elizabeth to help her understand how Joseph Smith was playing God and that everything he ever said was always about him and how great he is in saving his people from their sins.

Yes, Joseph Smith became the NEW Jesus Christ manifested in mortal flesh for all to behold.

THAT is what Mormonism was all about.
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