Why God is such a chronic "Under-Achiever"?

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_Mister Scratch
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Re: Why God is such a chronic "Under-Achiever"?

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solomarineris wrote:No one has to inform you how scien advances by leaps and bounds, look at the computer technology, astronomy; we know can detect asteroids less than 100M diameter fifty million miles away.
What does God do in turn?
Gives us Prophets/Popes like GBH, Ratzinger. At least the latter has intestinal fortitude to speak out against injustice,
stand by his doctrine. Somebody compiled GBH's interviews, which you can find online; His favored line is "We don't know"
"None of us know what lies ahead?" "I believe He's (God) all powerful, yes. I don't know his will, I don't know how he operates"

Excuse me? Who is supposed to know?
Me? As an average member who looks up to you for answers?

I don't expect you to know, dear Prophet, whether a Tsunami or an asteroid will destroy my Village tomorrow.
But have some courage to stand up for;
What you believe, what you know.


You know, I cannot help but note, if only in passing, that on another thread, Jason Bourne is demanding that I wax poetic about "what I believe", and yet GBH himself is incredibly dodgy on the issue of firm beliefs and doctrines. Isn't it wonderful?
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Re: Why God is such a chronic "Under-Achiever"?

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Mister Scratch wrote:
You know, I cannot help but note, if only in passing, that on another thread, Jason Bourne is demanding that I wax poetic about "what I believe", and yet GBH himself is incredibly dodgy on the issue of firm beliefs and doctrines. Isn't it wonderful?


Yeah, but that's because the prophet has to be careful since people really listen to him

(That was said in jest. I am sure there are many people who listen to you.)
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Re: Why God is such a chronic "Under-Achiever"?

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charity wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:
You know, I cannot help but note, if only in passing, that on another thread, Jason Bourne is demanding that I wax poetic about "what I believe", and yet GBH himself is incredibly dodgy on the issue of firm beliefs and doctrines. Isn't it wonderful?


Yeah, but that's because the prophet has to be careful since people really listen to him


Yes, and the parallels are striking, aren't they! Really, though, what would be so bad about people "listen[ing] to him"? What is there to be afraid of?
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Jersey Girl wrote:Also, I would like to give myself a chance for a brief rant here, I hope it's not too off topic. I'm really astounded by the comments of (gosh, I think it was charity on the Killer Blow thread) of folks who place conditions on the ability to receive revelation from God. If I am not mistaken, charity said something to the effect that "you have to ask first". What?

I'd like to know when Jonah asked to be sent to Ninevah, when Moses asked to become leader of the Hebrew folks.

Huh???

Also, if "you have to ask first" to receive revelation...we might as well throw Paul out the window.

Rant over. That wasn't so bad, was it?

Jersey Girl
;-)

Sorry, I have time for only a short drive-by post. And I'm feeling snarky - sorry again.

Come on Jersey Girl, in the cases of Jonah, Moses and Paul, we all know the answers - you're just too stubborn to admit it. So I'm going to save Charity the time and effort of replying to you.

The answer is: (drum roll please): You can't prove a negative, and absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

For all you know, Jonah was jonesing to be sent, Moses had leadership aspirations all of his life, starting in the little reed boat, and Paul had been pleading for a kick in the butt for ages - he just could not believe that god waited till the Damascus trip to give him the good word.

Unfortunately, none of them wrote anything about it - at least, nothing that has survived till now.
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That was easy! I think I'll become an apologist (in my spare time).
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