Utah businesses lacking in health care coverage

[_why me]

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The winds are shifting. The Government already subsidizes health care by not taxing health insurance if is a fringe benefit. Also, more and more Health Care providers are providing low cost high deductible insurance tied to Health Saving Account (HSAs). The amount you put in an HSA is tax deductible up to $5800 per year. You can use this to pay your deductibles and co pays. It is really a nice plan and puts management of one's health care more on their shoulders.

There are more and more americans without health insurance and many more cheating on their medicine to lessen the cost. I see your plan as unworthy due to the fact that one must be extremely intelligent to understand it. The government needs to safeguard health insurance in simple terms. Provide a choice: one can go to a private system if you have the money or to the public if he or she does not want to pay an arm and a leg.

[_wenglund]

Utah businesses lacking in health care coverage

Utah is the leader in yet another category, but it's not one to be proud of. Employers in Utah are dropping their employees' health care benefits faster than any other state in the country, and it is having an effect on Utah families.

"Working families are being asked to pay so much more of the premium that they choose to go without. So, that's just really, deeply tragic," said Judi Hilman, of the Utah Health Policy Project.

Hilman says that a lot of it comes from the number of small businesses in Utah. But there is a solution. "Get involved in advocacy," she said.

Not sure what this says about Mormonism, but I'm sure it's bad somehow...

I was under the impression that businesses, including those in Utah, tend to make business decisions based on economic/financial prinicples rather than religious principles (is there a religious principle about businesses providing health care?). Am I wrong about that?

If not, then I am not sure how Hillman's brief quip could say anything at all about Mormonism, let alone bad. But, perhaps you could explain.

Incidentally, the cryptic article did profer at least some viable explanation for why Utah may be leading other states in this decline--i.e. because of the large number of small businesses (which tend to have more difficulting affording health care for their employees, assuming they have any employees.)

I think if one were to also look more carefully at the types of business, they would also find lots of sevice type companies that employ a number of entry-level personnel, whose revenue-generating capacity barely covers the minimum wage, let alone the high expence of health care coverage.

Anyway, I am not sure why Hillman and others are shouldering businesses (or even the government for that matter) with health coverage for families. To me, that is the responsibility of the parents. And, I suspect that were businesses and governments less inclined to involve themselves in that private matter, parents would be better able to afford it if they choose (that is the way it was when I was growing up).

But, I suppose that if someone is looking for a way to stretch most any seemingly unfavorable report into a slight against the Church, then this cryptical article may work as well as any. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_asbestosman]

You're sorta grumpy this evening?

Possible although I don't recall being grumpy. I'm pretty sure I was just trying to be controversial.

I wonder where you figure I said one thing in any of my posts about health care and assume you know my position on it or the role of government when it comes to health care??

Nowhere did I do that. I was explaining my thought more than responding to what I assumed was your (or anyone's) position on healthcare. I merely intended to put up food for thought.

Anyway, what is this thread about? ;)

Utah and healthcare. Oddly, my parents (Utahns) who are pretty Republican in politics disagree with that party when it comes Old Testament healthcare. Of course I suppose they have a good reason for it too. My brother has a condition where he often has to go in for surgery on his intestines (they weren't connected when he was born). My brother has a hard time getting insurance because of this pre-existing condition. So why didn't my dad's company insure him? Well, because my father was a small business owner.

[_Gazelam]

If the Utah Mormons would excercise their priesthood more fully, they would need less health care.

[_asbestosman]

If the Utah Mormons would excercise their priesthood more fully, they would need less health care.

Not sure if you're serious or joking.

[_Jason Bourne]

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The winds are shifting. The Government already subsidizes health care by not taxing health insurance if is a fringe benefit. Also, more and more Health Care providers are providing low cost high deductible insurance tied to Health Saving Account (HSAs). The amount you put in an HSA is tax deductible up to $5800 per year. You can use this to pay your deductibles and co pays. It is really a nice plan and puts management of one's health care more on their shoulders.

There are more and more americans without health insurance and many more cheating on their medicine to lessen the cost. I see your plan as unworthy due to the fact that one must be extremely intelligent to understand it. The government needs to safeguard health insurance in simple terms. Provide a choice: one can go to a private system if you have the money or to the public if he or she does not want to pay an arm and a leg.

I will agree that sorting through the HSA, how it works, making sure it is funded at the right level and then factoring on our insurance costs to come up with total out of pocket costs potential per year may be difficult for many. Plus the tax reporting that will is required with it as part of one's tax return is difficult for the average Joe as well.

It may not be the solution but it seems a step in the right direction.

[_Mercury]

If the Utah Mormons would excercise their priesthood more fully, they would need less health care.

Maybe if they took them to a psychic healer too...or an iridologist! Yah, that's the ticket!

[_Gazelam]

Maybe if they took them to a psychic healer too...or an iridologist! Yah, that's the ticket!

What does your iridolgy tell you about me?