Protects a person from spending their hard-earned money on themselves:
“The covenant of tithing weans the faithful from the love of money and its attendant trappings.” (Keith B. McMullin, “An Invitation with Promise,” Ensign, May 2001, 61) “But without a testimony of tithing, [children] are vulnerable. In their teenage years, they become attracted to clothes, entertainment, and expensive possessions and risk losing the special protection that tithing provides.” (Robert D. Hales, “Tithing: A Test of Faith with Eternal Blessings,” Ensign, Nov 2002, 26)
Protects a person from being a thief:
“What is so important about tithing? If you don’t pay tithing, you are stealing from the Lord (see Mal. 3:8), and that’s contrary to the eighth commandment, and no one has ever prospered doing that.” (Hartman Rector Jr., “The Resurrection,” Ensign, Nov 1990, 76)
It’s a debt:
“Tithing is not a free-will offering; it is a debt...” (Marion G. Romney, “Concerning Tithing,” Ensign, Jun 1980, 2) “The most important step toward achieving financial well-being is to pay tithing first—no excuses and no exceptions.” (Lane V. Erickson, “Five Steps to Financial Well-Being,” Ensign, Mar 2004, 66–71)
More important than eating:
“As I pondered the significance of life and death, I thought, ‘What last words of counsel would I leave my children if I knew the time had come to leave this world?’ I could not think of anything better than the counsel I had received from my father: ‘Even if you don’t have anything to eat, always pay your tithing.’” (Jorge Luis del Castillo, “Lessons from the Old Testament: My Father’s Last Words,” Ensign, Dec 2006, 52–53) “[I]f a destitute family is faced with the decision of paying their tithing or eating, they should pay their tithing.” (Elder Lynn G. Robbins, "Tithing—a Commandment Even for the Destitute," April General Conference, 2005)
Essential for purchasing salvation:
“Failure to pay tithing by those who know the principle can lead to heartache in this life and perhaps sorrow in the next.” (Joseph B. Wirthlin, “Earthly Debts, Heavenly Debts,” Ensign, May 2004, 40) “Without tithing there is no exaltation…Tithing, then, is one of the bedrock foundation principles of exaltation.” (Hartman Rector Jr., “That Ye May Have Roots and Branches,” Ensign, May 1983, 25)
Preserves family relationships:
“I learned in serving almost twenty years as bishop and stake president that an excellent insurance against divorce is the payment of tithing.” (James E. Faust, “The Enriching of Marriage,” Ensign, Nov 1977, 9) “Then those who walk in holiness before the Lord, which includes the payment of tithing, will have an eternal family at the last day. And those who do not pay tithing will have none.” (Hartman Rector Jr., “That Ye May Have Roots and Branches,” Ensign, May 1983, 25)
Buys answers to prayers:
“Would any of us intentionally reject an outpouring of blessings from the Lord? Sadly, this is what we do when we fail to pay our tithing. We say no to the very blessings we are seeking and praying to receive.” (Robert D. Hales, “Tithing: A Test of Faith with Eternal Blessings,” Ensign, Nov 2002, 26)
Keeps a person from being burned alive:
“The payment of tithing is also worthwhile as fire insurance.” (Marion G. Romney, “Concerning Tithing,” Ensign, Jun 1980, 2) “A further reward for paying tithing is a guarantee against being consumed in the burning which is to accompany the second coming of the Savior.” (Marion G. Romney, “Trust in the Lord,” Ensign, May 1979, 40)
Makes you more attractive:
“It is a fact that we even look better when we pay tithing. There is a happiness that comes into the heart of the tithe payer that even reflects in his countenance.” (Hartman Rector Jr., “That Ye May Have Roots and Branches,” Ensign, May 1983, 25)
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Re: Good Reasons To Pay The Cult
Infymus wrote:More important than eating:
“As I pondered the significance of life and death, I thought, ‘What last words of counsel would I leave my children if I knew the time had come to leave this world?’ I could not think of anything better than the counsel I had received from my father: ‘Even if you don’t have anything to eat, always pay your tithing.’” (Jorge Luis del Castillo, “Lessons from the Old Testament: My Father’s Last Words,” Ensign, Dec 2006, 52–53) “[I]f a destitute family is faced with the decision of paying their tithing or eating, they should pay their tithing.” (Elder Lynn G. Robbins, "Tithing—a Commandment Even for the Destitute," April General Conference, 2005)
This is one that I just can't believe anyone would actually say. This is just as bad as the "I'd rather see my kids in a pine box than lose their virtue" quote.
Obviously these men have never had to make the choice between food and tithing.
Do you really think that at the final judgment, God will sit upon His throne and say, "Ummm...I'd really like to let you into Heaven, but...well, see, the thing is, you chose to feed your family rather than pay my already wealthy church the extra $50 so that they could build my mall. Did you know they had to use wood imported from Switzerland rather than Africa because of your unfaithfulness? The mall was a mockery to me because of that. I demand only the best!! So, it's the Terrestrial for you. Sorry."
Actually, come to think of it, the God I know would do exactly that.
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Scottie wrote:
This is one that I just can't believe anyone would actually say. This is just as bad as the "I'd rather see my kids in a pine box than lose their virtue" quote.
Obviously these men have never had to make the choice between food and tithing.
Just a couple of things to point out here. First, you did not notice who made the comment about paying tithing If you look at his biography, you know Jorge Luis del Castillo came from a very poor family.
And it was never said that a person had to starve to death. But missing a meal or two isn't going to kill anyone. Better than to disobey a commandment.
Scottie wrote:Do you really think that at the final judgment, God will sit upon His throne and say, "Ummm...I'd really like to let you into Heaven, but...well, see, the thing is, you chose to feed your family rather than pay my already wealthy church the extra $50 so that they could build my mall. Did you know they had to use wood imported from Switzerland rather than Africa because of your unfaithfulness? The mall was a mockery to me because of that. I demand only the best!! So, it's the Terrestrial for you. Sorry."
Actually, come to think of it, the God I know would do exactly that.
Sorry about your god. My God is not that kind. He looks at obedience and the intent of the heart.
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charity wrote:Sorry about your god. My God is not that kind. He looks at obedience and the intent of the heart.
Exactly. Your cruel God would rather see kids go hungry than someone disobey Him.
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Wow... those quotes contain some of the dumbest crap I've ever read (which is really saying something considering how much FAIR I read back in the day). It's absolutely staggering how people can put together the most widely unrelated things like they somehow have something to do with each other.
Here's one thing I'll agree with: if you're dumb enough to be suckered into paying tithing, you deserve exactly what you get. My goodness, the church is one hell of a scam. Unreal.
Here's one thing I'll agree with: if you're dumb enough to be suckered into paying tithing, you deserve exactly what you get. My goodness, the church is one hell of a scam. Unreal.
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Charity
Sorry about your god. My God is not that kind. He looks at obedience and the intent of the heart.
Well, (I would like to keep this post alive).
What kinds of obedience & intent are we talking about?
Like Nephi? Who got physchotic and decapitated Laban's head?
Or Lafferty? who slit an innocent woman's head?
Oh, Wait... I'll take my own brain as guide. It served me well so far.
Last thing I want to hear is voices in my head.
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solomarineris wrote:Charity
Sorry about your god. My God is not that kind. He looks at obedience and the intent of the heart.
Well, (I would like to keep this post alive).
What kinds of obedience & intent are we talking about?
Like Nephi? Who got physchotic and decapitated Laban's head?
Or Lafferty? who slit an innocent woman's head?
Oh, Wait... I'll take my own brain as guide. It served me well so far.
Last thing I want to hear is voices in my head.
Trust me, the voices are very fun.
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The Nehor wrote:solomarineris wrote:Charity
Sorry about your god. My God is not that kind. He looks at obedience and the intent of the heart.
Well, (I would like to keep this post alive).
What kinds of obedience & intent are we talking about?
Like Nephi? Who got physchotic and decapitated Laban's head?
Or Lafferty? who slit an innocent woman's head?
Oh, Wait... I'll take my own brain as guide. It served me well so far.
Last thing I want to hear is voices in my head.
Trust me, the voices are very fun.
Nehor, you are scaring me.
You sound like my sister who lives far away, teaches yoga, travels astral, floats whenever she meditates, communicates with dead.....