Moniker wrote:I can't pretend to understand feeling as though you're the wrong gender -- yet, I accept that some people truly feel this way. I would be mortified to wake up tomorrow and be a man! Oh! My! Goodness! My identity is wrapped in the feminine... it would be traumatic. Perhaps that's how some feel that undergo this surgery? That they feel they're a certain way and their body doesn't reflect this? I'm not sure... I should probably read up on it.
Well, to be honest I have had nightmares where I become a woman and they are nightmares. However, when I think about what would change I can't lay my finger on anything important. I could still enjoy all the things I already do except maybe nature calls. The nightmares have more to do with a fear of being ridiculed by those who know me.
Right... since you asked this question I've thought about it and am not sure what the different anatomy would really do to me.
Oh geez, asbestosman..... now I'm going to have dreams about this.
If I had a man's anatomy and yet was still me in my mannerisms I'd be ridiculed -- no doubt about it.
Okay -- I'm lying -- There ARE reasons I don't want to be a man and I'm just not stating them...
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Moniker wrote:Really? I've never considered that... Were you aware my oldest is diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome?
Yes I was.
Moniker wrote:Hmm... I don't know that it if I woke up tomorrow and had some of her attributes I'd be upset at all -- matter of fact I wish I was more like her. I'll never forget when she was about 5 and she was watching the news with me and a map popped up and she pointed to it and said what ocean she was looking at, the continents she saw and started telling me various facts about the area... she boggles my mind. She doesn't see her mind as a disability -- I don't really either. She's just not neuro-typical. She actually likes who she is and often speaks of her unique abilities that she doesn't see in her peers and siblings. Of course I've impressed a great deal of pride in her to embrace who she is. It's HER identity. My identity is being a female that isn't quite as bright and wishes she was. ;)
That's my point about asperger's syndrome. Asperger's syndrome is nothing to be ashamed of, but neither is being a male nor a female. At the same time, I think having asperger's syndrome has a huge impact on one's personality and likely on one's identity. In fact I suspect that it has a greater inherent impact on one's identity than gender does. Furthermore, I don't wish I had asperger's syndrome (or didn't have as some suspect I may have a mild case of it). I don't feel like I have the wrong brain type. I feel a bit stupid at times, but I don't feel like I need to switch bodies or brains or anything.
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Moniker wrote:Really? I've never considered that... Were you aware my oldest is diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome?
Yes I was.
Moniker wrote:Hmm... I don't know that it if I woke up tomorrow and had some of her attributes I'd be upset at all -- matter of fact I wish I was more like her. I'll never forget when she was about 5 and she was watching the news with me and a map popped up and she pointed to it and said what ocean she was looking at, the continents she saw and started telling me various facts about the area... she boggles my mind. She doesn't see her mind as a disability -- I don't really either. She's just not neuro-typical. She actually likes who she is and often speaks of her unique abilities that she doesn't see in her peers and siblings. Of course I've impressed a great deal of pride in her to embrace who she is. It's HER identity. My identity is being a female that isn't quite as bright and wishes she was. ;)
That's my point about asperger's syndrome. Asperger's syndrome is nothing to be ashamed of, but neither is being a male nor a female. At the same time, I think having asperger's syndrome has a huge impact on one's personality and likely on one's identity. In fact I suspect that it has a greater inherent impact on one's identity than gender does. Furthermore, I don't wish I had asperger's syndrome (or didn't have as some suspect I may have a mild case of it). I don't feel like I have the wrong brain type. I feel a bit stupid at times, but I don't feel like I need to switch bodies or brains or anything.
I see the term passed about a lot lately on the net... everyone seems to wonder if others have it or not. Anyway, if you feel stupid then you must see me as a complete nincompoop. :)
I do at times feel that I'm looked over because I'm a female.... That is irritating.... Men treat me one way where they don't treat other males that same way. Yet, at other times I get treated differently and I enjoy it. I'd be LYING if I didn't say I used my sexuality to get certain things I wanted -- I have done that... Hmm... I'd rather have a different brain than a different gender. Does this make me sexist??? I'm attracted to strong heroines and they appeal to me... I don't see myself as one, and yet, that this feminine strength has played a large role in my earlier years no doubt shaped how I view women and my own identity.
Moniker wrote:If I had a man's anatomy and yet was still me in my mannerisms I'd be ridiculed -- no doubt about it.
But aren't you ridiculed for your mannerisms anyhow? I thought you got lots of trolling PMs from exmormon men who pretend they're female. Maybe it's not ridicule so much as harassment, but it seems similar. Personally I'd rather be ridiculed than harassed--it's easier to ignore the former.
Moniker wrote:Okay -- I'm lying -- There ARE reasons I don't want to be a man and I'm just not stating them...
It's not because you're afraid you'll miss the toilet since you'd have to aim when you go, is it?
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Moniker wrote:If I had a man's anatomy and yet was still me in my mannerisms I'd be ridiculed -- no doubt about it.
But aren't you ridiculed for your mannerisms anyhow? I thought you got lots of trolling PMs from exmormon men who pretend they're female. Maybe it's not ridicule so much as harassment, but it seems similar. Personally I'd rather be ridiculed than harassed--it's easier to ignore the former.
There is a difference between sexual harassment (which I've dealt with on and off my entire life) and ridicule for mannerisms. Yet, I'm just stating that if I was a man that walked with my bouncy walk, giggled at times, and had the same sexual mannerisms I do that I would most likely be ridiculed by many in our society.
Moniker wrote:Okay -- I'm lying -- There ARE reasons I don't want to be a man and I'm just not stating them...
It's not because you're afraid you'll miss the toilet since you'd have to aim when you go, is it?
Well, shoooot....... No, it's not just that. I actually LIKE my sexual organs -- I don't wish to have a man's. I enjoy my body, the way it looks, my soft skin that isn't hairy, that I don't have to shave my face -- just some aspects that are totally superficial.
One thing I do NOT enjoy about being a female in our society is that women that are sexual are viewed as *off* in someway -- men don't have to deal with this as much...
Is something I write here going to end up in a signature line?? ;)