the road to hana wrote: One could make an argument either way, no doubt.
Actually one cannot.
here:
Recent census figures indicate how badly the Chinese want boys. In 1994 the worldwide sex ratio at birth was 101.5 boys for every 100 girls. In China there were 116 boys for every 100 girls. No one is certain what happens to the missing girls. Some may be aborted after a sonogram reveals a female fetus, though this practice was recently declared illegal. The traditional practice of female infanticide, described decades ago by Pearl S. Buck and Somerset Maugham, may still exist. Some baby girls may not be reported in the census. Rural families are often allowed to have two children. When the first is a girl, some families wait to record the birth until the second child proves to be a boy. Some baby girls are abandoned.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
the road to hana wrote: One could make an argument either way, no doubt.
Actually one cannot.
here:
Recent census figures indicate how badly the Chinese want boys. In 1994 the worldwide sex ratio at birth was 101.5 boys for every 100 girls. In China there were 116 boys for every 100 girls. No one is certain what happens to the missing girls. Some may be aborted after a sonogram reveals a female fetus, though this practice was recently declared illegal. The traditional practice of female infanticide, described decades ago by Pearl S. Buck and Somerset Maugham, may still exist. Some baby girls may not be reported in the census. Rural families are often allowed to have two children. When the first is a girl, some families wait to record the birth until the second child proves to be a boy. Some baby girls are abandoned.
You got me backwards, too. I thought I cleared this up above, but apparently not. My comments had to do with FLDS, not China.
If you're still unclear on that, let me know. I'll take another stab at it.
The road is beautiful, treacherous, and full of twists and turns.
I just finished Carolyn Jessop's book "Escape." She was Merrill Jessop's 4th wife, and escaped in 2003 with all eight children. The book is fascinating, and very hard to put down. It also illustrates how torturous polygamy is. As you know, Merrill is reported to be the guy in charge in Eldorado while Jeffs is in jail.
Anyway, at some point after Warren Jeffs took control he gave a new commandment that sex was ONLY for procreation purposes. God, he said, had now called them to live a higher law now. Women had to keep track of their ovulation and were only supposed to have sex when they were ovulating. Whether people actually lived that in the privacy of their own homes is unknown. What man would tattle tale on himself, and a wife could get in seriously trouble for telling tales on her husband. They were also not supposed to have sex while they were pregnant, but they didn't actually keep that rule either.
Now that Warren had taken sex away from the community, the men would choose to only have sex with their favorite wives rather than trying to be fair. This allowed them to create a caste system within their own families, Carolyn says, by permitting favoritism. It further disempowered the women, since sex was one of the few methods they had of exercising some degree of control (i.e., a woman who was having sex with her husband could be assured some degree of influence with him inregards to protecting her children from the abuse of other wives. As long as a woman was allowed to have a sexual relationship with her husband, she had some small measure of power to control her life.) Once Warren took sex away from all but ovulating women, women could no longer exercise this small measure of power - and that, Carolyn said, is when viritually the whole female population began to medicate with Zoloft and Prozac.
The abuse that Carolyn documents is endemic to their society and comes from everywhere, and in so many forms: physical, sexual, emotional, institutional. It happens at the hands of fathers, husbands, sister wives, stepchildren, mothers, etc.
What a horrible, horrible institution. And all brought to us courtesy of --- "you know who."
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the road to hana wrote: One could make an argument either way, no doubt.
Actually one cannot.
here:
Recent census figures indicate how badly the Chinese want boys. In 1994 the worldwide sex ratio at birth was 101.5 boys for every 100 girls. In China there were 116 boys for every 100 girls. No one is certain what happens to the missing girls. Some may be aborted after a sonogram reveals a female fetus, though this practice was recently declared illegal. The traditional practice of female infanticide, described decades ago by Pearl S. Buck and Somerset Maugham, may still exist. Some baby girls may not be reported in the census. Rural families are often allowed to have two children. When the first is a girl, some families wait to record the birth until the second child proves to be a boy. Some baby girls are abandoned.
You got me backwards, too. I thought I cleared this up above, but apparently not. My comments had to do with FLDS, not China.
If you're still unclear on that, let me know. I'll take another stab at it.
Ahh! sorry.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
My wife just started the book, she seems to really like it. Arranged marriages do seem pretty creepy, especially when theres a 40 year age difference, ewwww.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
That is so unhealthy, a woman has to heal before having another child. That will cause serious damage and what if she got cervix cancer, she wouldn't easily know about it. It is a stupid and bad idea. Clearly a man thought of it.
My wife just started the book, she seems to really like it. Arranged marriages do seem pretty creepy, especially when theres a 40 year age difference, ewwww.
You'll have to tell us what she thinks about it.
For me, it illustrated the worse abuses of patriarchy.
My wife just started the book, she seems to really like it. Arranged marriages do seem pretty creepy, especially when theres a 40 year age difference, ewwww.
You'll have to tell us what she thinks about it.
For me, it illustrated the worse abuses of patriarchy.
Im hoping I can get her to post her book review of it. If she argues with me I guess I'll have to threaten her with not being my favorite anymore, and she can go back to scrubbing baseboards again.... : )
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato