Reminder: John Gee on Book of Abraham Today

[_harmony]

Did anyone actually attend this who would be willing to give a report?

[_karl61]

I'm sure they will treat him nicer than he treats others in his "reviews"

Here is one:

"Most of these flaws—which plague nearly every page of the book—could have been corrected had the author had the benefit of three things: (1) a good editor, who would have insisted on complete bibliographic references and a consistent style and tone; (2) higher quality production values, that might have made sure that the pictures were in focus and that consistent type faces were used throughout; and (3) an understanding of the Egyptian language, since, regretfully, every one of the author’s own transcriptions, transliterations, and translations of Egyptian—and not a few of those that he attributes to others—is incorrect. For the want of these things, the author’s every positive contribution to the study of the book of Abraham is buried under such a mountain of errors that it is difficult to see how anyone is supposed to extract from his book what is useful:"

http://maxwellinstitute.BYU.edu/pdf.php?filename=MzIwMjcyNjk2LTgtMi5wZGY=&type=cmV2aWV3

[_Gadianton]

(2) higher quality production values

Ahh yes. How nice would it be to contract a dedicated "fundraiser" to shoot an imperious glare at a wealthy mark and Voilà, custom new dust jacket.

[_Dr. Shades]

Did anyone actually attend this who would be willing to give a report?

Yes. I was there.

My report is on its way.

[_rcrocket]

Why is it that every time I go to MADB posting the million dollar questions, I get banned immediately and all of the posts removed?

What are they so afraid of?

I think they are interested in polite discourse instead of hearing from a Neanderthal who slanders and smears at every turn. You have the knowledge to engage in discourse with these types but not the temperament. Few will really believe you or listen to you.

For what it is worth.

I try and follow you but once its "he's an idiot" my eyes glaze over.

[_moksha]

If you needed some gas money to go there I certainly would wire it to you.
It is disingenuous for you strike low blows about Kolob, Enish GoOndosh, Zelph, Nephilim.......
Give me a ring before you lack funds to confront idiots like him...

Hey, I think I would like to follow Dr. Peterson on his next tour of the Pacific Isles and make some puns.

[_dartagnan]

I think they are interested in polite discourse instead of hearing from a Neanderthal who slanders and smears at every turn.

Apparently not, since that is precisely the kind of behavior that passes over there. Apologists over there have become more and more hostile and the mods welcome it so long as they are being histile towards critics. Just look at how I corrected Mormon Mason. I didn't call him an idiot. I simply demonstrated that he didn't have the faintest clue what he was talking about. And this, after he attacked me for even thinking the texts could have been dictated. It was an embarrasing moment for him so the mods rushed in and deleted it all.

You have the knowledge to engage in discourse with these types but not the temperament. Few will really believe you or listen to you.

History says differently. We all know why I was banned, and it had nothing to do with temper. There were several TBMs who disagreed with the moderators characterization of my "temper." But Hauglid was starting to look like an ass, so they had to be rid of me. Not because I called him an ass, but because it became obvious the more he engaged me.

His student, Will Schryver, comes here and then leaves when it is shown he hasn't the faintest clue either. He cannot handle debate on the subject in which he thinks he is an expert. He hides in pundits where he knows there are only a few people who are going to even talk on the subject.

Oh, and he lies. And so does Hauglid.

Why should this be accepted?

Does the "Kingdom of God" need liars to "defend" it?

[_LifeOnaPlate]

Pardon my candor, but I think it rather cowardly of you to attack the man without being willing to attend a short lecture and ask him some questions in person.

Are you serious?

John Gee is the coward. I know this from first hand experience. Back in 2002 he was too chicken s*** to confront Metcalfe on the KEP, but that didn't stop him from emailing me and telling me what to say in his place.

Gee has already destroyed his credibility with this deceptive two ink theory. Even amateurs like Chris Smith have been able to show the guy is completely lacking in the critical thinkng dept.

Gee doesn't even face up to his critics. He prefers to push his new drug onto an ignorant crowd who knows nothing about his history in Book of Abraham apologetics.

WHat I find so funny, and so telling, is how the Book of Abraham issue is obviously their achilles heel. They want to keep everything on the down-low; secret whenever possible. Hauglid gives a presentation of photos but refuses to let the photos be filmed during the DVD production. Gee, what's he afraid of?

Why is it that every time I go to MADB posting the million dollar questions, I get banned immediately and all of the posts removed?

What are they so afraid of?

And why is Hauglid and Will lying to their audience when they say that they are not even aware of what the critical evidence is with regards to dictation. It was handed to Hauglid on a silver platter just weeks before his presentation. He ignored every opportunity to explain them within his copyist model. And then during his presentation he has the audacity to say he hasn't heard any evidemce.

Just so his audience will think this is because the critics" don't have any!

Will is over at MADB doing the same damn thing too. I pointed out that he had been called out here several times and he fled. He was also schooled on this subject back in may of 2006 by Metcalfe, and he abandoned the discussion. This was when Will wasn't even aware of basic issues, such as who the scribes were!

So their exposure and awareness of these evidences have been documented all over these forums for years, but when they are locked safe away in their precious "pundits" forum, they know they can get away with anything they want. So they lie. They say they haven't even seen any evidence! Of course this lie is used to bolster their ridiculous copyist theory.

The end justifies the means. Keep the flock ignorant and believing.

I take it this means Infymus didn't attend?

[_KimberlyAnn]

I try and follow you but once its "he's an idiot" my eyes glaze over.

Just as my eyes glaze over once its "anonymous blah coward blah blah anonyblahmous coward blah blah."

KA