Seriously, you should do some simple web searches on famous documentary filmmakers. Errol Morris and Micheal Moore are the names popping up most frequently.
With that search specific tag here is the first link
http://www.filmsite.org/docfilms2.html
The second:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2890675/Famou ... makers-ppt
Then there are a few that don't quite match what we are shooting for.
Then next:
http://www.ericdsnider.com/movies/stand ... procedure/
(Heh. That one contains the line: Errol Morris is the best documentary filmmaker currently working, maybe the best ever, with a body of work unparalleled in its editorial incisiveness and cinematic elegance.)
After that the next relevant one is about Micheal Moore. Anyway, the point is Errol Morris is much more mainstream/famous/recognizable/whatever than you seem to think using this measure.
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EAllusion wrote: I typed in "most famous documentary makers" into Google.
I knew it. LOL. You're lame.
EAllusion wrote:Your credibility on knowledge of the documentary form. If you recall, you were implying you knew a fair amount in order to underwrite the credibility of your comments. It turns out you don't.
Since you've abandoned your argument - Morgan Spurlock has a liberal agenda and just isn't as coo (pronounced in my best Cartman impression) as Errol Morris - I don't see much to gain from trying to convince a nobody of my experience in the film industry. Never mind working in the industry - You Googled most famous documentarian.
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I knew it. LOL. You're lame.
I suppose that is all that is left for you when I repeatedly establish my points.
Errol Morris is obscure. Almost nobody knows who he is. He's no Rob Epstein or Ron Mann.
That's false. See evidence a, b, and c.
How lame.
Since you've abandoned your argument - Morgan Spurlock has a liberal agenda
I haven't abandoned it. The conversation on it petered out. It's fairly obvious he does, like him or not. When you did a google search on Spurlock and liberalism, how did that turn out?
and just isn't as coo (pronounced in my best Cartman impression) as Errol Morris -
More accurately, his methods of making his case through a film are more disingenuous than Morris's. Morris is a good example of how to produce a persuasive doc without such methods. Morris is superior artistically and technically, but I'm not concerned with comparing them along those lines.
I don't see much to gain from trying to convince a nobody of my experience in the film industry.
Martin Scorsese? I heard about that guy once in film class. He's not really mainstream. In any case, Micheal Bay is awesome. Before you challenge me and my extensive knowledge, know that I'm a bit player in the film industry!
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Heh. Spurlock optioned and is now adapting Mooney's The Republican War on Science. (Good book for the most part). Notice a theme here? Why would Spurlock be adapting this famous liberal book?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01711.html
As it turns out, Spurlock's sources for his companion book to Supersize Me are a laundry list of liberal activists - the animal rights group PCRM being the most egregious. Maybe I'll go through that later.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01711.html
As it turns out, Spurlock's sources for his companion book to Supersize Me are a laundry list of liberal activists - the animal rights group PCRM being the most egregious. Maybe I'll go through that later.
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This anti-Spurlock website has a few goodies concerning his more ridiculous moments. My personal favorite is the claim that bovine growth hormone is linked tomad-cow disease. As it happens, in the process of doing this it does a good job of pointing out the connections to liberal advocacy, which should've already been punch you in the face obvious.
http://spurlockwatch.typepad.com/front/
(It's was run by notable libertarian writer Radley Balko. He's probably best known for his documenting justice system abuses.)
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Check out this Daily Kos - one of the most significant liberal blogs - on the very first episode of 30 days:
What do I win?
http://spurlockwatch.typepad.com/front/
(It's was run by notable libertarian writer Radley Balko. He's probably best known for his documenting justice system abuses.)
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Check out this Daily Kos - one of the most significant liberal blogs - on the very first episode of 30 days:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/14/235158/178Tonight I had the opportunity to see a preview of the 1st episode of 30 Days, the new show by Morgan Spurlock of Supersize Me fame. The preview was co-sponsored by the Center for American Progress and ACORN and was held at a movie theater in Washington DC. The film was introduced by Sen. Ted Kennedy (more on this after the flip).
I usually hate reality shows and refuse to watch any of them, but '30 Days' is definitely worth a look. The premiere episode is about the minimum wage: Morgan and his fiancee Alex leave all their money, credit cards and even their health insurance behind to live for 30 days earning nothing but minimum wage. This episode should be required viewing for anyone (especially Republicans!) who thinks we don't need to raise the minimum wage in this country.
The show premieres tomorrow (Wednesday)@ 10 PM on FX.
More on the flip.
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Of course, no reality show can truly convey the experience of living from paycheck to paycheck for years, but the show does show glimpses of what it's like. During the 30 days, Alex suffers a medical condition that requires to go to the emergency room and miss a couple of days of work. Without health insurance, Morgan and Alex see their savings eaten up by the hospital bill--the ER fee alone is $300!
One the evening's treats was getting to see Sen. Ted Kennedy delivery a short but fiery speech on the minimum wage. He's clearly very passionate about the issue, and framed it terms of fairness, a value that most Americans can understand. Kennedy also made a plug for his minimum wage bill:
Senator Kennedy's proposal would raise the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour in three steps. The current minimum of wage is $5.15 is grossly inadequate to live on in this economy with nearly 36 million people live in poverty, including 13 million children. An American who works full-time, year-round at the current minimum wage earns $10,700 a year -- $5,000 below the poverty line for a family of three. In the past eight years Congress has raised their own pay seven times, yet has refused to offer minimum wage earners a single raise.
This bill will probably not pass this year, but the issue of minimum wage is gaining momentum elsewhere. For example, ACORN successfully organized voters in Florida and helped pass a minimum wage increase ballot initiative--with 72% of the vote. ACORN is now trying to achieve a similar victory in Ohio (where the premiere episode of '30 Days' takes place).
I have to say I was pleasantly surprised by this show. It's a great example of how liberals can find compelling and entertaining ways to convey their message without coming off as dour of preachy. The episode I saw was managed to be funny, informative and while conveying a solid progressive message that favors the working class of America.
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Consider this:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives ... rlock.html
Don't concern yourself with the content of what she is saying here. Spurlock was making a 30 days episode on American Muslim Families. They approached Debbie Schlussel to appear on the show. Debbie Schlussel is notorious for being one of the more unhinged, vile Islamophobes on the right. And that is who they tried to get on the show to represent "the other side." Hmmm. Sort of like going to the FRI to hear their views on gay parenting, hey?
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives ... rlock.html
Don't concern yourself with the content of what she is saying here. Spurlock was making a 30 days episode on American Muslim Families. They approached Debbie Schlussel to appear on the show. Debbie Schlussel is notorious for being one of the more unhinged, vile Islamophobes on the right. And that is who they tried to get on the show to represent "the other side." Hmmm. Sort of like going to the FRI to hear their views on gay parenting, hey?