Bruce Longo the Holy Ghost, dead kids thrown from a balcony

[_gramps]

TAK, are you a prophet or...

I believe Welch did just come out with such a piece, didn't he?

[_Mercury]

That's not unreasonable, but I think it's a little hasty to say that all these feelings have to be the same, as well.

They are based on the same "logic". One mans insanity is anothers salvation. They work the same nevertheless.

Chucking your kids out the window of a hotel is not really comparable to saying you have a testimony the church is true.

Actually I would say that it is the culmination of their belief system if her actions were in line with the nutjobs philosophy. Clarification from someone?

I think there's more psychosis than just strong emotions motivating those actions.

True. Religious fervor enabled the psychosis.

As far as the kids go, that's all they know. I don't think they've been given enough of a fair shake with reality to really accuse them of just being too believing.

Funny how that at such a young age humans are very programmable. It brings a sinister angle to the LDS Primary program that I find disgusting.

Trying to lump it all together I think is going outside the lines to try to pigeonhole "faith."

Why? How does the aforementioned "faith" differ from your own? Specifically, how does one reach different conclusions than the nutjobs in the OP? What "evidence" is disregarded and what evidence is "heightened"? How does this compare to those following joe in the early years of the church? There are many parallels I see between the Longo's and the Mormons, specifically but not limited to the lifestyle Longo lived when compared to Joes lifestyle.

[_Dr. Shades]

"Bruce Longo the Holy Ghost, dead kids thrown from a balcony."

I could've sworn it was live kids that were thrown from a balcony.

[_Mercury]

Laman originally asked for the plates. Laban said he was a robber and tried to kill him. Then they all went and gathered their possessions and offered them to Laban in exchange for the plates. Laban tried to kill them again and stole their possessions. After twice trying to kill Nephi or his family, and after stealing their property, he was killed by Nephi. Nephi was perfectly justified.

No, he wasn't.

Nephi could have just as easily left Laban tied rather than kill him and still accomplish his task.

Sure, what Laban did was wrong, and I guess your God is a vengeful god, so it does make sense that he would command Nephi to kill him. I, myself, would like to think that a forgiving god would hold himself to a higher standard.

Thus we see the schitzoid behavior of the authors of the Book of Mormon. Or is it a simpler explanation tha tthere was more than one author?

To the morm's: Lets just get it out of the way that the LDS narrative on hw the Book of Mormon came to be is false.

[_Inconceivable]

This might help:

http://www.mazeministry.com/Mormonism/n ... /index.htm

Emmanuel David really had a commanding presence. Huge dude. People that did business with him were under the impression he was a billionaire (new money) with revenue streaming from South America who was on the LDS church's #1 enemies list - well, until he was found in the canyon. It was surreal to hear about his wife tossing the family off. Not a positive way to start a new religeon.

This was a long time ago.