Homosexual Marriage and Views on Marriage

[_Roger Morrison]

Well I'll throw another opinion here. When you get old, and you're no longer driven by testosterone, you realise that the only true meaningful relationship is a monogamous one, with the person you love. If you don't find it, then resort to imagination.

Being 'old' I'm not sure that I agree whole heartedly, Ray. Living in the "older" circle--65 t0 85--where you suggest "testoserone" no longer "drives", let me respectfully, and gratefully, suggest, "it keeps healthy seniors coasting."

After the death of a spouse, often their is little want, or need, to remarry. But the desire for companionship and affection can remain, and is satisfied by relationships that serve that purpose, without vows that were more purposeful in child rearing years.

"Moving-in" might work for some. "Going-steady," when each has their own turn-key accomodations that can be locked while travel and holidays are enjoyed, with mutual respect and appreciation, is one of the better kept secrets of sensible-senior-life. No guilt. Simply the enjoyment of the "Golden Years" as one chooses. Yes, they can be "Golden."

Roger
:-)

[_asbestosman]

I actually have posited a theory recently on this board that the exact opposite is going on - that TBMs and other religious folks who are so against gay marriage are against it because it it would, in a sense, legitimize gay sex (between spouses). These people cannot accept that gay sex can ever be legitimate, and therefore there cannot be gay marriage. This is because if there were gay marriage and yet gay sex between spouses were still not legitimate, it would undermine the view that marriage legitimizes sex in general.

It is true that I will not accept gay sex as legitimate, however that is not why I am against gay marriage. I can provide another counter-example about marriage legitimizing sex: one-night weddings at Vegas. I heard stories of BYU cracking down on students who did a weekend marriage thing.

So, in order to maintain sexual control of heterosexuals within the religious paradigm, without recognizing the legitimacy of gay sex in any circumstance, they must oppose gay marriage.

I don't wish to control anyone within my religious paradigm anymore than I do those outside of it. If God wanted to have governments open marriage up in that way, then I'd support that. I'm not itching to ban private self-defilement even though it's against God's commandments. The legality of such makes no difference in "sexual control". Self-discipline is something everyone must develop and exercise himself or herself.

[_asbestosman]

Here's my opinion.

Human population growth is an issue facing the survival of this planet. Resources are running out. Mormons who have huge families should feel a little guilty of this, just like someone who doesn't recycle or wantonly pollutes. To offset their population emission, Mormons and other folks with big families (say, five children or more) should sponsor a homosexual couple who agrees not to have any children.

I know you're writing tongue in cheek with regards to the solution, but I'd like to point out that Mormons are more likely to have smaller families before supporting homosexual couples. Indeed, many of the Mormons I know seem to be putting off having kids for longer and are having fewer children when they start.

In fact I think overpopulation is a somewhat self-correcting problem. Technology may help make larger populations possible, but it also appears that as a society becomes wealthier it tends to have a slower population growth.

[_The Dude]

I know you're writing tongue in cheek with regards to the solution, but I'd like to point out that Mormons are more likely to have smaller families before supporting homosexual couples. Indeed, many of the Mormons I know seem to be putting off having kids for longer and are having fewer children when they start.

This seems to be true to me as well.

In fact I think overpopulation is a somewhat self-correcting problem. Technology may help make larger populations possible, but it also appears that as a society becomes wealthier it tends to have a slower population growth.

Technology, wealth. Homosexuality could be part of the solution too?

[_harmony]

What do you mean by sponsor, Dude?