LDS Church vs. Porn...what happens if we lose?

[_truth dancer]

The Soviet Union, for example, mandated women wear skirts at one point to increase their appeal to men, and thus raise Soviet birthrates.

Still really wondering why the LDS church demands women wear dresses to church. I don't like it.

[_ludwigm]

The Soviet Union, for example, mandated women wear skirts at one point to increase their appeal to men, and thus raise Soviet birthrates.

Still really wondering why the LDS church demands women wear dresses to church. I don't like it.

What about the sacred underwear?
I can barf.


I am sorry, I have no words to fit better.

[_DarkHelmet]

The Soviet Union, for example, mandated women wear skirts at one point to increase their appeal to men, and thus raise Soviet birthrates.

Still really wondering why the LDS church demands women wear dresses to church. I don't like it.

Has anyone challenged them on this dumb rule? Have you tried going to church dressed nice but wearing pants? What could they do?

[_harmony]

The Soviet Union, for example, mandated women wear skirts at one point to increase their appeal to men, and thus raise Soviet birthrates.

Still really wondering why the LDS church demands women wear dresses to church. I don't like it.

Then don't wear dresses. C'mon, TD. You know no one's going to say a word if you show up for church in pants and a shirt. I've seen women enter the temple in pants and a blouse.

The church doesn't make that demand. The culture does (another reason to hate the culture).

[_truth dancer]

I do wear pants to church.

:-)

Let me share a little story on this topic.

We were having a ward fast for a family whose mother was killed in a car accident and a daughter was in a coma. It was winter in Utah and we had a good foot of snow. We were to meet at the ward building after a day of fasting.

We had only one car which was being used by my husband, and I had four small children at the time so I packed them into a wagon and trudged a couple of blocks in the snow to get to the ward building. I was wearing jeans and snow boots.

When I got there the Bishop reprimanded me for not dressing appropriately in the chapel. I was supposed to bring a dress to change into so I could participate in the prayer.

So, yeah, maybe cultural but pretty deeply ingrained. :-)

Today, when I attend church no one says a thing about my clothing. I'm viewed like a visitor, so pants are fine.

Ok, sorry for the little sidebar here!

[_karl61]

Once, I went to the Stake President and talked to him about what was going on in my life. I had already been excommunicated for like 7 years. I asked him for a blessing so I could get better and be like everyone else - a good person. I think I was about twenty seven and had been addicted to porn since age 10. I can't remember what he said but I don't think I got a blessing. I do remember that at work a member of the church was talking to me and told me that at stake conference the previous sunday that the stake president had gotten up and told of a young man who had come in and asked for a blessing and he wasn't sure why he did this given the life this young man was living and explained to the conference the issues the young man was facing.

I guess the fact that I read about sick peopled being healed and wanting that - was a little complicated for him. You read stories about the priesthood bringing dead people back to life, healing people that had been blind all their life. May be I could get some help too.

I'm sure a lot of young men came to talk to him after his talk.

[_Inconceivable]

I think that one of the best ways of dealing with this would be for the Brethren to share their own, personal experiences in struggling and overcoming their issues..

I think that would go a long ways towards addressing the issue in the Church.

Like that would ever happen. I was counseled repeatedly never to discussion my own personal failings with others (except when confessing to leaders, natch), particularly when counseling someone else.

These are great points. For those that have read the Book of Mormon, historically it is doctrinal to discuss personal failings and stories of overcoming sin with those we counsel.

My observation is that when a group overzealously focuses its energy upon the specificity of the sin, it's abhorance or the abstinence, the principal of forgiveness is obscurred and devalued. That is why the pine box doctrine was given credibility for so many years. This is why SWK got away with his aboration Miracle of Forgiveness - a book which taught neither miracles nor forgiveness.

If there is a just God and a loving and merciful Jesus, it's time to begin teaching the concept behind becoming a child of Christ and having no more desire to do evil.

[_Brackite]

1. Not to overreact. Mainstream to liberal Christian Churches do not pin their entire concept of morality on human sexuality. They actually see masturbation as a normal biological process for bodies which God created.

I very much agree with that. Masturbation is a normal biological process for bodies which God Created.

[_The Nehor]

No, not accuracy. You fixed it to fit your narrowmindedness.

I, Mr. Kettle, refuse to hear such accusations from Mr. Pot.

[_Gazelam]

The Soviet Union, for example, mandated women wear skirts at one point to increase their appeal to men, and thus raise Soviet birthrates.

Still really wondering why the LDS church demands women wear dresses to church. I don't like it.

I was unaware that there was any "demand" placed on what women are to wear to church. isn't it more like a tradition, similar to the Bishop being seated on the stand?

Nothing in stone, just tradition?