Satan no longer has 'powers & priesthoods'?

[_Alter Idem]

What she said, A.I..

FAIR/FARMS: squarepeg into roundhole mentallity, referencing everything but the endowment ceremony they are attempting to describe - dizzying.

The Mormon God commanded Adam and Eve to put on the exact same oversized G-string that Satan commanded them to put on (a symbolic gesture intended to hide their sins).

Satan did not endow them with any priesthood power, he clothed them with deceipt.

Joseph Smith's God does not wear an apron neither does the Mormon Jesus, regardless of whether anyone else's God does.

Not there, man.

Unless you're sporting the big apron to change the endowment ceremony, you're just going to have to deal with it.

Why not just close your eyes as if you were asleep instead

Calling it an "oversized G-string" is offensive. Using lines from the temple ceremony to mock me is offensive. It's only a joke if both sides see the humor and as a believing LDS, I'm not likely to see humor in it--especially when I know you meant to offend. I realize that you are no longer a member, but why do you have to take what someone else finds sacred and treat it with such disrespect?

From your initial remarks it was clear to me you misunderstood the endowment. Harmony has a limited understanding of it as well. I gave you information to back up my position, you rejected it. And you reject the suggestion that the endowment is symbolic. I guess there's nothing else to say.

[_harmony]

If you want to think that's "all" it means, if you think that the endowment is only what you see and hear, you are missing a lot. I gave you some information--some of which you trashed because it came from FAIR--the other, which did not come from FAIR, you basically ignored because it isn't "mentioned"? Where did you get the idea that everything we are to learn or understand from the endowment must be spelled out exactly?

I prefer to get my daily dose of spirituality from the scriptures or the Brethren. I tend to lean heavily on the New Testament and the Book of Mormon, and I try my very best to ignore the Old Testament (except as a lesson in how ethnoentric ancient men used to be), the D&C (which I consider a book of regulations, not commandments), and if I ever start quoting the Pearl of Great Price, someone please slap me.

That said, the Brethren have never changed the endowment. Never. When Father and Son appeared to Joseph, neither of them wore a green apron. If the apron was anything but something grabbed to cover their shame, if it was indeed a symbol of God's power of some sort, whether procreation or priesthood, they would have worn it when they visiting Joseph in the Grove. We know they wore white. We sure as heck know they didn't wear green. It is what I said it is, what the endowment says it is. And if it's not, then it doesn't matter, because it's all bullshaloney anyway.

FAIR does not tell me what is true and correct. Heck, half of what the Brethren say doesn't pass my test, but virtually NONE of what FAIR puts out does.

Quick. Grab these fig leaves and cover yourself, or Father will see your shame. Joseph didn't get it, didn't understand it, but at least he didn't try to find hidden meaning in it.

With any luck, the green apron will go the way of the throat slashing. And after that, we can get rid of the veil and the funny hat (someone somewhere is going to pay for that, if I am lucky enough to get my hands around their neck). There's something to be said for ongoing revelation.

[_karl61]

I could care less what the devil had on as I had the biggest crush on the dark haired Eve she was the only thing that mattered in the film.

[_Inconceivable]

Unless you're sporting the big apron to change the endowment ceremony, you're just going to have to deal with it.

From your initial remarks it was clear to me you misunderstood the endowment.

Clear as the apron on the Mormon God's holy trousers, A.I..

or shall we call it, "The Emporer's New Clothes"

Harm,

I always really hated that stupid baker's cap. I used to just think the Mormon God was a practical joker.

[_harmony]

I could care less what the devil had on as I had the biggest crush on the dark haired Eve she was the only thing that mattered in the film.

The dark haired Satan was yummy. I wouldn't have minded a stroll to the back of the garden with him. The blonde Eve was humdrum though. The hysterical part was when Gordon Jump played Heavenly Father. I kept expecting him to morph into the maytag repairman.

[_Inconceivable]

The hysterical part was when Gordon Jump played Heavenly Father. I kept expecting him to morph into the maytag repairman.

Or walking on with an unsipped drink in his hand attempting to act like an alcoholic (for those that remember WKRP)..

I always expected him to say "Hi, I'm Gordon Jump, and this is THE Mormons!", instead of "I am Peter..".

(I think he was Peter, Harm, remember? Man, that was a long time ago.)

[_harmony]

The hysterical part was when Gordon Jump played Heavenly Father. I kept expecting him to morph into the maytag repairman.

Or walking on with an unsipped drink in his hand attempting to act like an alcoholic (for those that remember WKRP)..

I always expected him to say "Hi, I'm Gordon Jump, and this is THE Mormons!", instead of "I am Peter..".

(I think he was Peter, Harm, remember? Man, that was a long time ago.)

Was he Peter? Shoot, at least he didn't have a wrench in his hand and a silly blue hat on.

[_Yoda]

Was he Peter? Shoot, at least he didn't have a wrench in his hand and a silly blue hat on.

Yeah, Gordon Jump was Peter.

I could never get the vision of him as the alcoholic from WKRP in Cincinnati out of my head.