Top TBM Apologists

[_Some Schmo]

That was as nice as I could put it. When it comes to Mormon apologetics, it's impossible for me to be honest and nice at the same time.

Okay. So niceness will not be the of the game with you. But you have been nice, at times. I'm so confused, or you are just being dramatic for dramatic's sake. I don't get it, though. Oh well.

I can be a nice guy when I want to be, but few people are nice all the time. My responses reflect appropriateness to the subject at hand. I have a flexible response system going.

And mopologetics is one of those areas where niceness feels inappropriate to me. Someone pissing on my leg... same thing.

I've never been one to look at BS mental contortionism favorably.

So no charity for the mistaken people who justify their beliefs, in your mind through contoriton, because they love their beliefs huh?

I actually don't begrudge people their mistaken beliefs (assuming they aren't pushing them on others or hurting others in the name of said beliefs). I understand that mental comfort is a powerful motivator, so fine. It doesn't, for a second, mean I'm not critical of the beliefs themselves.

A person may love the idea that they're "mopping the floor with others in debate", for instance (still laughing about that one, Simon), and although that belief is ridiculous, I'm not going to criticize the person for holding it... just the idea itself.

This is eerily far too black and white, polarizing, and hostile, but it won't be seen that way by the posters here, I'm sure. Oh well.

It's actually very nuanced. Like I said, my response changes depending on the content. I don't dislike people simply because they belong to a "tribe."

[_Wisdom Seeker]

I have mentioned some of these apologists names to friends in my ward and there is only one name that anyone recognizes: Mike Ash. Either I have a very uninformed group of ward friends, they subscribe to SLTRIB over DN or they have accepted the counsel I have heard given in Priesthood to avoid apologetic writings and simply follow the Prophet.

you must live in a very lowbrow community. I won't say anything more.

I live in a community full of ostriches who simply have their heads burred in the sand. I can't tell you if this is typical or not.

[_stemelbow]

I live in a community full of ostriches who simply have their heads burred in the sand. I can't tell you if this is typical or not.

I wouldn't know either, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was typical.

[_malkie]

Juliann and other TBMs have appropriated the term "Mopologist." I don't understand why Simon has such a problem with it, apart from the fact that he apparently wants to lump the more vicious apologists in with the legit scholarly types, such as Bushman. I guess it's about getting Peterson, Midgley, et al. to ride on the coattails of these other guys?

It's about not allowing you to define your enemies.

And yes, Kishkumen, little words and phrases do spring up, and that's fine as long as they aren't epithets.

"Anti-Mormon", anyone?

[_asbestosman]

No. Words evolve over time -- long periods of time.

lol. I'm gonna goolge this so I can find a blog and rtfm to ensure that trolls don't hit me with an epic fail or use it for phishing.

;o)