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_Runtu
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Chap wrote:There you go again, trying to imply that Hoops is stupid. Is there no end to your arrogance?


Maybe I'm the stupid one because, when someone says I'm being arrogant and laughably predictable, I'd like to know why.
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Maybe I'm the stupid one because, when someone says I'm being arrogant and laughably predictable, I'd like to know why.

I don't recall that i wrote that you or your op is arrogant and laughably predictable. I wrote that the posts are. It seems that a reasonable interpretation is that I am referring to the replies to your op.
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There you go again, trying to imply that Hoops is stupid. Is there no end to your arrogance?

No, not that hoops is stupid. That anyone who has a belief in God is. The refrain is constant and continuous. To the point that one wonders what the purpose of this forum on this board is. Here's how the game develops: someone posts their thoughts on some subject, either specifically about LDS or broadly about belief in God. Then we're treated with ensuing posts of varying number about how anyone with such a belief must be stupid to believe such nonsense. Then there's a lot of backslapping about how clever the atheists/agnostics are. See quote above.

There really is very little discussion about the actual issue, why one believes what he/she does, etc. Maybe that occurs in the other forum, I don't know. Frankly, I haven't read the rules for that and the subjects brought up there are too specific for my taste. But, it is what it is. The forum will inevitably become what its participants want it to be, if it's not there already.
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Hoops wrote:

There you go again, trying to imply that Hoops is stupid. Is there no end to your arrogance?

No, not that hoops is stupid. That anyone who has a belief in God is. The refrain is constant and continuous. To the point that one wonders what the purpose of this forum on this board is. Here's how the game develops: someone posts their thoughts on some subject, either specifically about LDS or broadly about belief in God. Then we're treated with ensuing posts of varying number about how anyone with such a belief must be stupid to believe such nonsense. <...>


I am bored by posts along the line of 'you're all the same' or 'they are all the same'.

As I have stated explicitly elsewhere, I don't see anything about being highly intelligent and well educated that precludes that person from having religious beliefs. Nor, on the other hand, do I see anything about having religious beliefs that prevents someone from being ignorant and stupid.
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I am bored by posts along the line of 'you're all the same' or 'they are all the same'.

Exactly.
Are your atheist/agnostic brethren subject to your condemnation?
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Hoops wrote:

I am bored by posts along the line of 'you're all the same' or 'they are all the same'.

Exactly.
Are your atheist/agnostic brethren subject to your condemnation?


I note that religiously minded people sometimes refer to other people who believe in their religion as 'brethren'. However -

People who don't collect stamps are not the 'brethren' of other people who don't collect stamps.

Likewise, people who feel no motivation towards or interest in using the names of deities as explanatory terms in talking about the world are not the 'brethren' of other people who feel no motivation towards or interest in using the names of deities as explanatory terms in talking about the world.
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Re: Speaking of brainwashing ...

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Hoops wrote:Exactly.
Are your atheist/agnostic brethren subject to your condemnation?


As Chap says, there is no church of the agnostic. It might be fun to start one, but I doubt anyone would attend.

Sunday services would consist of the pastor standing at the pulpit saying "I just don't know. Now, lets start the bingo".
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.

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The word brethren is gender racist. Please ban every users of that word.

Including female ones. Or, better said, only them.
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cinepro wrote:If it's any consolation, the past decade has shown that financial realities typically overwhelm the idealistic intentions of LDS-based private schools.

Countdown to bankruptcy begins.....


now.


The question is how much long term damage can they do to young minds while in operation.
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Hoops wrote:

What does it say about religion that it functions best in small doses?

It doesn't. But to the extent your statement is true, it says the Christian faith is expressed in many divers ways. Which is what one would expect.
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