Believers: why was your God so late on the scene?

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Re: Believers: why was your God so late on the scene?

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mentalgymnast wrote:Whatever has happened before doesn't matter today...unless you can prove to me right here, right now, that God doesn't exist and that there isn't any ultimate rhyme or reason for life on earth today, no matter how it may have evolved over time.

Should we discard belief in God and a hereafter because we may run into difficulties as we try to put some old pieces of a puzzle together and make a complete/whole picture?

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MG


You should discard your belief in Yahweh/El, yes, given their obvious human origins. And any other gods you might think of, until such time as sufficient evidence exists to justify belief in one or more of them.
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mentalgymnast wrote:
Unless the atheists can prove the non-existence of God and that there isn't any ultimate rhyme or reason for life on earth, then it is reasonable to consider the possibility that there is.

It's that simple.

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MG


Given the complete lack of any evidence for any god whatsoever, and the mountain of evidence against your god specifically, I'd say the entire concept is self-refuting.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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moksha wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Which means what regarding the gods Yahweh and El?


That perhaps they once were called Ninurta and Anu. Before that perhaps Sumschmo and Synapro.


Do you have any evidence linking Yahweh with Ninurta? Perhaps Huckleberry Fin was once called Duncan, King of Scotland.

Maybe Yahweh was once the bear god. Or the fertility goddess. Or the fire god. I'm not sure what commonality links them together though. Do you?

But, if Yahweh IS Ninurta or Anu, wouldn't that make writings about those gods holy scripture? I'm not sure Yahweh's early supporters would have agreed - in fact, anyone worshiping Ninurta within the cult of Yahweh would have been stoned.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Some Schmo wrote:
mentalgymnast wrote:Unless the atheists can prove the non-existence of God and that there isn't any ultimate rhyme or reason for life on earth, then it is reasonable to consider the possibility that there is.

It's that simple.

Regards,
MG

Well, I completely agree with that.

I suppose our only disagreement is on how much time should be spent considering the possibility before dismissing it. And I guess that would depend not on if it's possible, but how probable you think it is.


Personally speaking, time has made all the difference.

Regards,
MG
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Buffalo wrote:
You should discard your belief in Yahweh/El, yes, given their obvious human origins.


Not so obvious to everyone.


http://www.evidenceforchristianity.org/ ... ew&id=5266

http://www.evidenceforchristianity.org/ ... &Itemid=45

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MG
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Re: Believers: why was your God so late on the scene?

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mentalgymnast wrote:Personally speaking, time has made all the difference.

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MG

Heh... same here, good sir. Same here.
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Re: Believers: why was your God so late on the scene?

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mentalgymnast wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
You should discard your belief in Yahweh/El, yes, given their obvious human origins.


Not so obvious to everyone.


http://www.evidenceforchristianity.org/ ... ew&id=5266

http://www.evidenceforchristianity.org/ ... &Itemid=45

Regards,
MG


Obviously they're taking the view that the evidence should be ignored in favor of the faithful view. They even acknowledge it. Not incredibly useful.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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