The Church doesn't believe in priesthood authority

[_Buffalo]

Want proof? If someone in the church baptizes another person while unworthy, is the baptism considered valid? You bet it is! And per D&C, being unworthy means you have no priesthood authority.

Bizarrely, if the person being baptized has a toe sticking out of the water during the ceremony, then the baptism is invalid.

[_Some Schmo]

And per D&C, being unworthy means you have no priesthood authority.

So the church really is a fraud, since it's never been restored. Wouldn't Joe need the priesthood to do so? It's hard to imagine someone more unworthy.

Bizarrely, if the person being baptized has a toe sticking out of the water during the ceremony, then the baptism is invalid.

This is the kind of crap that makes the church look like a club started and run by 12-year-olds.

[_Drifting]

*puzzled frown*

But surely if a person were to...say...lie during a temple recommend interview and enter the temple under false pretences the Priesthood holders would be prompted by the Holy Ghost to intervene and prevent that person doing any posthumous rituals for and in behalf of someone who is dead. They would...wouldn't they...?

[_Some Schmo]

*puzzled frown*

But surely if a person were to...say...lie during a temple recommend interview and enter the temple under false pretences the Priesthood holders would be prompted by the Holy Ghost to intervene and prevent that person doing any posthumous rituals for and in behalf of someone who is dead. They would...wouldn't they...?

The only thing a priesthood holder can really figure out for sure is that a tithe payer is better for the church than a non tithe payer.

Doesn't their power just make you all tingly inside?

[_Buffalo]

*puzzled frown*

But surely if a person were to...say...lie during a temple recommend interview and enter the temple under false pretences the Priesthood holders would be prompted by the Holy Ghost to intervene and prevent that person doing any posthumous rituals for and in behalf of someone who is dead. They would...wouldn't they...?

The gift of discernment is apparently completely dead in the church. Alas.

[_Themis]

*puzzled frown*

But surely if a person were to...say...lie during a temple recommend interview and enter the temple under false pretences the Priesthood holders would be prompted by the Holy Ghost to intervene and prevent that person doing any posthumous rituals for and in behalf of someone who is dead. They would...wouldn't they...?

The gift of discernment is apparently completely dead in the church. Alas.

It always has been dead. I remember an individual who was called as a patriarch. At the time no one knew he was a pedophile, and had already been active in it for years. These callings have to be approved from SL, yet no one from the SP up got any discernment here. Now he was eventually excommunicated, although the church protected him far to long, and some were upset by it. Whats interesting is that all those who had blessings from him were told not to seek new ones, and that the ones they received were valid, or would be honored by God. My own Brian Laundrie and others convinced themselves that maybe the spirit guided him just in his calling. I suppose having two kids who had blessings from him might influence that a little. The ways we delude ourselves. :)