Who's Stupider, the Gay or the Mormon Church

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Re: Who's Stupider, the Gay or the Mormon Church

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Darth J wrote:So how is it that attacking a pseudonym is not a personal attack if there is a real person behind the pseudonym?


Pseudonym's can't have their identity stolen.
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Re: Who's Stupider, the Gay or the Mormon Church

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bcspace wrote:
Who's Stupider, the Gay or the Mormon Church
Always gays. Homosexuality is sin. It is also stupid imho, to think that LDS doctrine on the matter has changed, is changing, or will change.
Darth J wrote:I think it's too bad that you continue to promulgate this folklore. There is nothing in official LDS doctrine that precludes same-sex marriage.

Nothing in official LDS doctrine that precludes same-sex marriage? Sounds to me like a similar build-up as there was to June 1978. Laying the groundwork for another reversal of doctrine.

bcspace, you might someday be a counselor to a openly gay SP. But maybe you've already been a counselor to a privately gay Bishop. Keeping gays in the closet, you just never know.
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The 'Mighty' Builder: Ma'... get the broom... theres one-a-dem gays at th' door!
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Re: Who's Stupider, the Gay or the Mormon Church

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bcspace wrote:
Who's Stupider, the Gay or the Mormon Church


Always gays. Homosexuality is sin. It is also stupid imho, to think that LDS doctrine on the matter has changed, is changing, or will change.


1977 bcspace would have said that about Blacks getting the Priesthood.

1889 bcspace would have said that about Polygamy becoming non doctrinal.

However...

I am Mitch Mayne, and I am an openly gay Latter-day Saint.

On August 14, 2011, I was sustained as the executive secretary in the Bishopric of the Bay Ward of the San Francisco Stake of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons).

I accepted this calling because of the opportunity it presents me to serve my Savior and my community. And, I accepted this calling as my authentic self: An openly gay man who loves his Savior, loves his Mormon family, loves his counterparts within the LGBTQ community, and has both desire and opportunity to serve.

Up until a year ago, I was in a committed, monogamous relationship with my partner of several years. I wore a wedding band. I attended church and held callings within my ward. But, life is not without its own twists and turns, and I left that relationship for a variety of reasons, none of which had to do with pressure from the church. It was, without question, the most painful decision I’ve ever made.

As a result, my current circumstances provide me with a unique opportunity to serve in a Priesthood leadership role within my community. I am committing to adhere to the same standard of behavior that we require of any single, heterosexual man in a priesthood leadership position.

Like each of us in the human family, I don’t know what my future will bring; but I do know I will always strive to live my life in accordance what I understand my Savior’s will for me to be. That desire to do what is right—just like my orientation—is embedded into my spiritual DNA. And both are cornerstones to what make me my Father’s son.

I understand that for my gay Mormon brothers and sisters and those who support them both inside and outside our faith, there is special meaning here: For it demonstrates that not only do we as gay Mormons have a home within our faith if we so choose, but that we also have a path.

It is a humbling honor to be asked to serve in this capacity, and I am grateful for a Church leadership that views me as an asset that can help serve our community. Nonetheless, I am simply an ordinary man, blessed to have been placed in extraordinary circumstances. And as such, a man who is willing to bring that experience to bear to help others as they strive to find their place within the gospel, and within the Mormon family.


bcspace when the goal posts are clearly in a different position it's no use saying "nobody's moved them and nobody's going to move them...".

The Church has 'form' on flip flopping doctrinal matters to conform to societal trends.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric

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