Church Issues Statement on Appeals Court Prop 8 Ruling

[_Brackite]

The 14th Amendment Trump's the 10th Amendment on this issue. It also did with the case of Bush versus Gore back in 2000.

Bush v. Gore:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore

[_consiglieri]

California voters have twice determined in a general election that marriage should be recognized as only between a man and a woman. We have always had that view.

That just strikes me as an odd thing to say. It's very ldsfaqs-esque.

It looks like the LDS Church is going to continue trying to rewrite their history until everybody forgets the fact Mormons are famous for having practiced polygamy.

This was a dumb thing to say.

I feel embarrassed.

And slightly unclean.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

[_Darth J]

California voters have twice determined in a general election that marriage should be recognized as only between a man and a woman. We have always had that view. Courts should not alter that definition, especially when the people of California have spoken so clearly on the subject.

Courts have not altered that definition. There is no aspect of marriage as actually defined in law that requires the partners to be of the opposite sex. What courts have done is invalidate an arbitrary condition that is irrelevant to what marriage really is.

Why doesn't the Church start campaigning for ballot initiatives requiring married persons to conceive and raise children in order for their relationship to be legally recognized as a marriage?

I bet Dallin H. Oaks would get behind that.

[_Simon Southerton]

Courts should not alter that definition, especially when the people of California have spoken so clearly on the subject.

Millions of voters in California sent a message that traditional marriage is crucial to society. They expressed their desire, through the democratic process, to keep traditional marriage as the bedrock of society, as it has been for generations.

If I remember correctly millions of California voters voted for gay marriage and it was a very close vote. The people didn't speak very clearly. If over 50% of Californians voted to allow gay marriage (which will probably happen at the next vote) methinks the Mormon Church wouldn't like the democratic process quite as much.

[_harmony]

Why the concentration on California? 7 others states now have legalized same sex marriage, but the church didn't spend comparable resources or time in those states. What makes California so special?

[_Fence Sitter]

Why the concentration on California? 7 others states now have legalized same sex marriage, but the church didn't spend comparable resources or time in those states. What makes California so special?

If you lived here you would not ask that question. :)



Maybe it has to do with the number of LDS here which ranks second only to Utah. 1.8 million in Utah (1st) 750,000 in Ca. (2nd)

[_Stormy Waters]

Why the concentration on California? 7 others states now have legalized same sex marriage, but the church didn't spend comparable resources or time in those states. What makes California so special?

From what I can tell, the church doesn't have nearly as many members in the states where gay marriage is legal. So it may just be because they didn't have the muscle in the other states to make any kind of significant opposition.

[_Bond James Bond]

Why the concentration on California? 7 others states now have legalized same sex marriage, but the church didn't spend comparable resources or time in those states. What makes California so special?

Domino effect. Today California. Tomorrow Nevada and Colorado. Two weeks later Arizona. Twelve hundred years later...Utah.

Honestly I'm not sure. I think people thought California, one of the largest states and home to 10% of the population, would be good "Alamo" to make a stand. But I think people know it's going to happen eventually. Public polls are consistently around 50% for SSM and growing. If SSM is to be brought in state by state it will take a long time but it's inevitable.