Drifting wrote:You don't know how many people (roughly) attend Sacrament Meeting at your ward? Or do you not want to face the fact that it represents a very small percentage of the people who remain recorded on your ward list?
Small? 60% attendance is small? I don't know the exact number, but that's supposedly the attendance percentage from the ward clerk.
But I am sure that's a lie.
Wow.
JMS
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jskains wrote:When would you like them purged? If they are untraceable? We had a guy who came back to church who by your standards would have been deleted, and what? Do we have to re baptize them?
Ignoring the ongoing fantasies of Ex-Mormons, most people who do not attend church are not necessarily ex-Mormon. There are a LOT of people who have said they just don't have the time or they are working on Sunday. A lot of them have said they wouldn't mind coming back at some point.
JMS
Yes, I'd say purge them. Very few come back. It'd be easy to rebaptize those few, or simpler yet, simply re-add their name to the list.
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Drifting wrote:You don't know how many people (roughly) attend Sacrament Meeting at your ward? Or do you not want to face the fact that it represents a very small percentage of the people who remain recorded on your ward list?
Small? 60% attendance is small? I don't know the exact number, but that's supposedly the attendance percentage from the ward clerk.
But I am sure that's a lie.
Wow.
JMS
I'm sure your figures are accurate and reliable.
But using them would suggest the number of active Church members worldwide is less than 8,500,000.
And yours is a super active ward. most get nowhere near 60%.
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jskains wrote:When would you like them purged? If they are untraceable? We had a guy who came back to church who by your standards would have been deleted, and what? Do we have to re baptize them?
Ignoring the ongoing fantasies of Ex-Mormons, most people who do not attend church are not necessarily ex-Mormon. There are a LOT of people who have said they just don't have the time or they are working on Sunday. A lot of them have said they wouldn't mind coming back at some point.
JMS
Yes, I'd say purge them. Very few come back. It'd be easy to rebaptize those few, or simpler yet, simply re-add their name to the list.
I personally don't care. I think seventh day Adventist have different criteria for membership then LDS, where baptism and ordinances play a vital role in theology. As such they like to keep an accurate record of who has had which ordinances. I suppose it would be nice if they published attendance rates but the church likes to be secretive with statistics and fiances to some degree.
I don't know any data around the world. I know only the ward where I was investigator for six years. During these years the length of the list increased from ~350 to ~420. In the chapel there were/are 85 chair. Never was all filled. Never.
The cumorah.com - which is church friendly site - says about Hungary "28% activity, according to the mission office"...
I remember splitting one branch - which was evaluated during the next conference as a big step forward. A few year later they were reunited again. Was evaluated from the pulpit again - as strenghtening.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
Buffalo wrote:or simpler yet, simply re-add their name to the list.
Exactly. I don't understand the big problem with that.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
LDS.org has omitted large amounts of this past GC from their website. Reason being, small audiences, particularly in the Priesthood Session.
PR wants the public to believe there Isn't an apostasy, however Oaks made remarks in a Q&A during amidst university scandal confirming members are rapidly leaving their organization.
I'm guessing if membership reaches less than 30% active in Salt Lake City, Their local real estate will be sent to auction.
Utah has one of the worst public education systems in this country for 1 reason, TAX money is used to buy land and build extravagant vacant monuments overseas in the from of tithing.