Leaving the Church-A Marriage Dealbreaker

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Re: Leaving the Church-A Marriage Dealbreaker

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Drifting wrote:I see Mormon wives and husbands putting up with all sorts of indescretions from their spouses and working through all sorts of different relationship problems whilst they retain the common goal of reaching the Celestial Kingdom.

Once that shared goal is gone, the other problems become deal breakers.


What kind of indiscretions?
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LDSToronto wrote:
Drifting wrote:I see Mormon wives and husbands putting up with all sorts of indescretions from their spouses and working through all sorts of different relationship problems whilst they retain the common goal of reaching the Celestial Kingdom.

Once that shared goal is gone, the other problems become deal breakers.


What kind of indiscretions?


Now that would be gossiping...
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Drifting wrote:
LDSToronto wrote:
What kind of indiscretions?


Now that would be gossiping...


I suppose...I ask not to satisfy my own prurient interests, but to get an idea of what kind of indiscretions the New and Everlasting Covenant of Marriage make easier to cope with. When I was in the church, I knew women who would put up with domineering husbands, but I can't say I knew of any that would tolerate infidelity or sexual transgressions.

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Re: Leaving the Church-A Marriage Dealbreaker

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LDSToronto wrote:
I suppose...I ask not to satisfy my own prurient interests, but to get an idea of what kind of indiscretions the New and Everlasting Covenant of Marriage make easier to cope with. When I was in the church, I knew women who would put up with domineering husbands, but I can't say I knew of any that would tolerate infidelity or sexual transgressions.

H.


I know of a husband who got past his wife's infidelity and I know of a wife who tolerated her husbands physical abuse. In both cases, when one spouse (Husband in both cases) stopped believing the marriage broke up.
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Re: Leaving the Church-A Marriage Dealbreaker

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The two biggest reasons imho are

1) Wanting to find someone to share eternity with.
2) Protect the kids from false teachings and influences of the unbeliever.

Valid reasons imho.

Just one more reason the LDS church remains a major antagonist in the war against families.


No, they merely promote the ideal family.

Ironic considering how the church tries to sell itself as family friendly. Nothing is more important to a TBM than having an eternal family. Any relationship that threatens that needs to be cut off.


The Church actually does a pretty good job of allowing people to come to the same conclusions that match the teachings of Jesus such as:

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Matthew 10

Those who do not come to the same conclusions usually fall away.
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bcspace wrote:No, they merely promote the ideal family.


Your ideal, maybe. Not mine.
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No, they merely promote the ideal family.

Your ideal, maybe. Not mine.


And not Christ's obviously.
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Re: Leaving the Church-A Marriage Dealbreaker

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bcspace wrote:
And not Christ's obviously.


You have evidence that Christ married more than one woman? Show it. You have evidence that Christ married at all? Show it. You have evidence that what is attributed to Christ... Christ really said? (I got that one from Dan....) Let's hear it.
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