Might your worship of Jesus change if you found out he was rotund? If so, how and why?
Would this knowledge make your Jesus more forgiving and loving despite your mistakes?
Would this knowledge make your Jesus more stern and dominating?
What would it do?
Thank you for your comments!
Have a wonderful day,
Zee.
Fernando Botero
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
For me, this knowledge would make him more forgiving.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
This is a wonderful question, zee. Obviously, we have little to go on when it comes to the actual physical appearance of Jesus. In early Christianity, he was depicted as the young, clean-shaven Good Shepherd, much in the mold of Orpheus. Later he conformed to the bearded image of an Olympian Zeus in the Greek East, and a blonde, bearded German in the West of the Carolingian monarchy.
These imperial Christs, Cosmocraters, yielded to the Medieval image of the suffering and tortured figure on the crucifix. Mormonism, which deemphasizes physical representations of the suffering Christ in its distinctive Johannine-inspired manner, harks back to earlier heroic and idealizing representations of Jesus. I don't care for LDS Jesus art all that much for that reason. I find the stark, cold majesty of the Nordic Christus terrifying, for example.
Jesus could have been your average, homely guy. It was his message that was striking. In that way he was more like the homely Socrates, who comes closer in my mind to Jesus than modern Jesus art. Both Jesus and Socrates were ancient Mediterranean teachers who placed their message above all else. My guess is that neither man was outstanding for his looks.
Last edited by Guest on Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Might your worship of Jesus change if you found out he was rotund? If so, how and why?
Would this knowledge make your Jesus more forgiving and loving despite your mistakes?
Would this knowledge make your Jesus more stern and dominating?
What would it do?
Thank you for your comments!
Have a wonderful day,
Zee.
Fernando Botero
It would make the crucifixion harder to believe.
H.
"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level." ~ Ernest Becker "Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death." ~ Simone de Beauvoir
Kishkumen wrote:This is a wonderful question, zee. Obviously, we have little to go on when it comes to the actual physical appearance of Jesus. In early Christianity, he was depicted as the young, clean-shaven Good Shepherd, much in the mold of Orpheus. Later he conformed to the bearded image of an Olympian Zeus in the Greek East, and a blonde, bearded German in the West of the Carolingian monarchy.
These imperial Christs, Cosmocraters, yielded to the Medieval image of the suffering and tortured figure on the crucifix. Mormonism, which deemphasizes physical representations of the suffering Christ in its distinctive Johannine-inspired manner, harks back to earlier heroic and idealizing representations of Jesus. I don't care for LDS Jesus art all that much for that reason. I find the stark, cold majesty of the Nordic Christus terrifying, for example.
Jesus could have been your average, homely guy. It was his message that was striking. In that way he was more like the homely Socrates, who comes closer in my mind to Jesus than modern Jesus art. Both Jesus and Socrates were ancient Mediterranean teachers who placed their message above all else. My guess is that neither man was outstanding for his looks.
As you say, we really have no idea what he looked like. If there actually was a Jesus of Nazareth (and I personally think there was such a person), then he probably looked more like Osama Bin Laden than any of the popular Nordic varieties.
St. Paul freely improvises his tales as he evangelizes. "All things are contained within the single mind of One True God in His three aspects." Saint Paul could dispense this sort of smooth b***s*** while taking apart and reassembling a Holy Rolodex machine," Timothy relates as he witnesses St. Paul in action. Paul speaks in "ye olde" when he quotes the voluminous Christ. Timothy remarks that when Saul of Tarsus meets the Christ ghost, he converts to a religion that Saul/Paul himself had not yet founded. People are consistently disappointed to learn that Christ weighed 400 lbs. and spoke with a lisp. "Why doth thou persecute-eth me-th?" There is an interesting plot twist when Judas is mistaken for Christ and almost crucified. It seems that the "real Christ" was a militant Zionist, and Paul's golden-rule Christianity an improvisation. Paul journeys from town to town raising money and founding churches, adding to his Holy rolodex, and tap-dancing.
by the way in the original text there are no asterisks
We don't like negative attributes of the heroes. (of every kind...) The status of hero means the person left the real word. The hero doesn't digest, the hero's feet don't stink.
Did You ever see supermans make entrance into a toilet? The answer is yes - in satires only. The clowns, the court jesters may say the truth.
or
“May the dark side of the force be with you”.
Why do exist so many well polished biography about the VIPs of past and present? Kings, prophets, leaders in general?
Sometimes there are rare movies like "The King's Speech". A king who stutters. Then why not a redeemer who lisps, or has eating disorder?
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
“May the dark side of the force be with you”.