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_MrStakhanovite
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Meh. The political landscape has painted Obama as some kind of Big Government advocate, but he isn’t much more different than Bush, just a different emphasis on spending. This leads some of the party base (cogs like Droops) to define themselves in simple binary relations, Obama is for big government? I’m for small government! So people latch on to this idea that the “Free Market” is some kind of golden formula that is going to bring all aspects of the human condition into some perfect equilibrium.

In my opinion, the effect of all these communities defining for themselves what a good education is going to create schools that cater to ethnic and ideological aspects, and you’ll end up with the kind of refugee/immigrant problem France and Denmark suffer from, a population of people who are fundamentally alienated from the wider culture and locked in ghettos with little hope of escape.

Nothing could be more against the conservative spirit of Burke than an education system that nurtures treasured beliefs without any real challenge to those beliefs.
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nightmare world.
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Kishkumen wrote:
MrStakhanovite wrote:Public education is supposed to be a leveling field, not some kind of disparate field of little fiefdoms of demagogues telling people how it is. Applying “Free Market” economics to social policy is a poor strategy and would only create a bunch of insular pockets of communities self segregated along cultural, ideological, economic and ethnic lines. This is counter intuitive to what I would think be a conservative conscience well versed in their own background.


Well, there is a difference between the sane Republicans of old and these hacks.


They used to be sensible people.
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Math and gravity are just a few tools of the Devil.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07

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I going to home school my kids so they don't get tainted by Tea Party kids.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07

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I avoid church religiously.
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huckelberry wrote:nightmare world.

Yes. Fundamentalists are all the same.

As I lived in the "eastern block", I experienced some similar viewpoint.

As a radar technician, I've met the traveling-wave tube, which is a specialised vacuum tube. In the 60s and 70s, the lifetime of the soviet types were typically 1000 hours, while the western ones was qualified to 30,000 hours.
You know, vacuum is nothing. True materialists don't explore, or work with nothing.
Later, there was one brave developer, who said: "comrades, we are ideologically strong enough to investigate the vacuum"

And this is not a joke.

Another:
Stalin said: "cybernetics is a reactionary (or bourgeois) pseudoscience"
The result was twenty year fallback of the "social lager" in computer science/technology.


Religious mathematic will be only a wiki entry in the next decades.
Or, there will be no science, no humans, no nothing.

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Maggie Koerth-Baker blogs about science at Boing Boing (and other places). Last week she addressed the set theory issue in an interesting post. Basically, Stak gets it right: it's about a particular understanding of Modernism as Other. However, since she speaks as one who has a fundie Xtian educational background, her take on it may be of interest to people here.
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hans castorp wrote:Nonetheless, as a homeschooling parent who has examined A Beka materials, I can only weep for any child taught from them.

hc

Then you weep for me! I went to the Academy in Pensacola.
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Molok wrote:
hans castorp wrote:Nonetheless, as a homeschooling parent who has examined A Beka materials, I can only weep for any child taught from them.

hc

Then you weep for me! I went to the Academy in Pensacola.


Tears are trickling down onto the keyboard as I type. However did you manage to recover?

hc
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