Caffeine Officially not against Word of Wisdom

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Polygamy-Porter wrote:Too bad God was asleep at the wheel when he tossed the WoW down to old Joe. Carbs, and refined sugar should have been added to that so called revelation.

Or this one, that would really have helped out in Nauvoo and on the Zion's Camp march.

"Thus sayeth the Lord, even Alpha and Omega, the very son of Elohim, who died for your sins, etc. Boil your damn water!"

That would have saved lives.
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Sethbag wrote:
Polygamy-Porter wrote:Too bad God was asleep at the wheel when he tossed the WoW down to old Joe. Carbs, and refined sugar should have been added to that so called revelation.

Or this one, that would really have helped out in Nauvoo and on the Zion's Camp march.

"Thus sayeth the Lord, even Alpha and Omega, the very son of Elohim, who died for your sins, etc. Boil your damn water!"

That would have saved lives.

Perhaps he needed a number of them to come back and a few he wanted dead?
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BBC Wales made a programme where they helped Donny Osmond trace his Welsh family roots.

It appeared, in the mid to late 1800's, members of the local LDS branch survived typhoid in proportionately greater numbers than non members. He thought this was because they had been obedient to the WoW and were blessed for their righteousness- the researcher showed him a newspaper cutting in which the local branch president told his congregation not under any circumstances to drink the local water, but to consume only "ale".

Hence, they survived to emigrate to the US.
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confuzzled wrote:BBC Wales made a programme where they helped Donny Osmond trace his Welsh family roots.

It appeared, in the mid to late 1800's, members of the local LDS branch survived typhoid in proportionately greater numbers than non members. He thought this was because they had been obedient to the WoW and were blessed for their righteousness- the researcher showed him a newspaper cutting in which the local branch president told his congregation not under any circumstances to drink the local water, but to consume only "ale".

Hence, they survived to emigrate to the US.


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Equality wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:The "rumor mill" and "traditions" have NEVER been Church Doctrine or Teachings.
That's a key principle that ESPECIALLY you anti-mormons need to remember. Of course, to be fair some Mormons need to pay more attention also. But, that's life. Hate doesn't motivate their honest mistakes.

Too bad Hinckley didn't have you around to straighten him out on the whole caffeine ban being only a "tradition" or something he heard from the "rumor mill." Who knew that the Prophet speaking on national television proclaiming that the Word of Wisdom proscribes the use of caffeine was not a church teaching but just something the Hinckster had picked up in his ward's rumor mill.

I'm starting to wonder if Hinckley was really ever a Mormon at all. It seems not.
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Themis wrote:
3sheets2thewind wrote:I agree with bcspace that an addiction is a violation of the WoW. It has always been my belief that apart from the few 'thou shalt nots' in section 89, and addiction to anything is not wisdom.


An addiction to jolt is not grounds for sending someone home. There would have to be something else here. I have learned not everything bcspace says is accurate.


LOL. Yeah, those caffeine addictions can be deadly, tear apart families, and destroy lives. Caffeine is the most abused substance in America. Anyone who decides to kick the habit has to suffer a day or 2 of headaches, drowsiness, and irritability. If the church fails to successfully get someone off caffeine, how do they handle more serious addiction problems?
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At the Mormon owned eatery "The Lion House", you can get "Brigham's Best" (or whatever they call it) which is something like 8 - 12 things (your plate essentially could feed 4 people) - but you can't get any drink with caffeine.
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Great! Since it's only HOT Drinks, Ice Tea, Iced Coffee, etc. are Good to Go with Mormon Jesus. So get in that McDonald's line and order up those specialty drinks.

Way to Go Mormon Jesus, bowing to the PR Pressure. YOU WUSS!
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3sheets2thewind wrote:I agree with bcspace that an addiction is a violation of the WoW. It has always been my belief that apart from the few 'thou shalt nots' in section 89, and addiction to anything is not wisdom.


Themis wrote:An addiction to jolt is not grounds for sending someone home. There would have to be something else here. I have learned not everything bcspace says is accurate.


DarkHelmet wrote:LOL. Yeah, those caffeine addictions can be deadly, tear apart families, and destroy lives. Caffeine is the most abused substance in America. Anyone who decides to kick the habit has to suffer a day or 2 of headaches, drowsiness, and irritability. If the church fails to successfully get someone off caffeine, how do they handle more serious addiction problems?


I know people who are addicted to Church which does indeed tear families apart....
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In the press release I can't see where it clears up wether hot drinks means hot tea and coffee or hot and cold tea and coffee. That would be funny, God says hot but meant hot and cold...
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