Church leaders as people or as empty icons?

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_son of Ishmael
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ludwigm wrote:
Franktalk wrote:English being so complex as a language.

Apparently You don't speak
- Hungarian
- Russian
- German

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- any non-English



Agree. If it had a phonetic alphabet, English would be one of the easiest languages to learn. No male, female, or neuter nouns and adjectives, no complicated cases to learn. Pretty straight forward sentence structure.
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Franktalk wrote:If you were smart you would know that knowing facts is different than the measurable ability to learn. Thank you for demonstrating my point.


What does that have to do with a perfect, non-dumbed-down language?
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Tchild wrote:
Franktalk wrote:Actually I believe all current languages are dumbed down. I think that the ancients were much smarter than the average person today. I think that we fool our self with all of our gadgets into believing that we are superior.

They weren't smart enough to know that washing their hands (germs and hygiene) would keep millions of people from premature deaths.


right, little things like don't crap near your water sources.
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son of Ishmael wrote:
right, little things like don't crap near your water sources.



Let's be fair.....they didn't have TV "Soaps" like General Hospital. :rolleyes:
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Bob Loblaw wrote:What does that have to do with a perfect, non-dumbed-down language?


Did I say that ancient languages were perfect? I believe I said that ancient languages were complex and modern languages are dumbed down.

It is hard to carry on a conversation when one side just makes stuff up.
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Franktalk wrote:
Bob Loblaw wrote:What does that have to do with a perfect, non-dumbed-down language?


Did I say that ancient languages were perfect? I believe I said that ancient languages were complex and modern languages are dumbed down.

It is hard to carry on a conversation when one side just makes stuff up.


How do you know that and what do you base it on? What languages? Reformed Egyptian? Adamic?
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harmony wrote:How do you know that and what do you base it on? What languages? Reformed Egyptian? Adamic?


I will let you form your own opinion. Here is a link with an over view of the sumerian language.

http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/edition2/language.php

After many years the experts still don't have it all figured out.

Now there are some languages that have gone out of their way to be complex. There is one in the Amazon basin that comes to mind. But a comparison of this ancient sumarian against what we refer to as modern is pretty eye opening to many. I know it was to me. But you may have a different opinion.
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Franktalk wrote:Anyone who rejects a GA needs to tell me what they found in scripture that disagrees with what they said. I will not hold my breath waiting.


I reject Oakes. Women and girls are not walking porn. Only a power drunk fool would say that
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harmony wrote:I reject Oakes. Women and girls are not walking porn. Only a power drunk fool would say that


I searched for "oakes walking porn" and only got porn sites. Is there a better way for me to find what you refer to?

And by the way. The world is filled with power drunk fools. A GA may be one also. Did Oakes actually say his message was from God?

Was it something like this?

Eze 16:28 Thou hast played the whore also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied.
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