Mormon church membership is slowing in US to .49%

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Mormon church membership is slowing in US to .49%

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http://www.sltrib.com/lifestyle/faith/4 ... researcher

Only .49% growth.

Growth was down to 1% in 2015.

Viewing this as a sales organization, it is quite pitiful.

Sales force swells(missionaries) at the same time sales(covert baptism) continues to drop into obscurity.

"Fewer convert baptisms, a reduced birthrate and inactivity problems among young single adults," Martinich wrote, "appear primarily responsible for slowing membership growth."

Less new members coming from Mormon wombs due to Mormon women popping out less tabernacles of clay, and young Mormons delaying marriage.

Like so many other Christian faiths, Mormonism, with 15.6 million members globally, seems to be slipping — or at least not growing as fast — in the developed world, but is looking to Africa and parts of Latin America for its growth.

Go after the third world peeps who tend to far less educated and lack resources to conduct their own investigations online about the LDS cult.
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"Fewer convert baptisms, a reduced birthrate and inactivity problems among young single adults," Martinich wrote, "appear primarily responsible for slowing membership growth."

I suspect that if they were to be honest they would remove the word "problems".

I believe that inactivity is not a "problem" for the YSA - though it certainly is for the church.
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These numbers must be anti-Mormon lies. We have it straight from Elder Jeffrey Holland that the church is creating ten plus new states a week and that "We are reeling under the implications of the growth that we have in this Church."

http://ldschurchgrowth.blogspot.com/201 ... -week.html
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If so, no surprise. Most people head to the internet to find informatin and when they attempt to find information about the lds church, they get a load of antimormon news items and sites. And we all know that critical thinking skills in the US are rather low. This is not an opinion but based on research that can readily be found on the web.

The antimormons are doing a very good job in persuading about the lds church before they even set foot inside a lds cburch. However, considering the drug addiction, alcohol addiction, and various other addictions affecting people's lives, the lds church just might have help many people before they even started their addictive behavior. But....

Is the lds church so bad for people? No.
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missionary work is pointless
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why me wrote:If so, no surprise. Most people head to the internet to find informatin and when they attempt to find information about the lds church, they get a load of antimormon news items and sites. And we all know that critical thinking skills in the US are rather low. This is not an opinion but based on research that can readily be found on the web.

The antimormons are doing a very good job in persuading about the lds church before they even set foot inside a lds cburch.


Why is Satan always clearly winning?

However, considering the drug addiction, alcohol addiction, and various other addictions affecting people's lives, the lds church just might have help many people before they even started their addictive behavior.

The statistics on anti-depressents in Utah would suggest membership in the Church causes more problems than it solves.

But....

Is the lds church so bad for people? No.


Is not being a member of the Church so bad for people? No, and it's considerably cheaper.
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why me wrote:If so, no surprise. Most people head to the internet to find informatin and when they attempt to find information about the lds church, they get a load of antimormon news items and sites. And we all know that critical thinking skills in the US are rather low. This is not an opinion but based on research that can readily be found on the web.
CFR.

why me wrote:The antimormons are doing a very good job in persuading about the lds church before they even set foot inside a lds cburch.
Why would antimormons "set foot" inside an lds church?

why me wrote:However, considering the drug addiction, alcohol addiction, and various other addictions affecting people's lives, the lds church just might have help many people before they even started their addictive behavior. But....
Has LDS Inc cured you of your porn addiction?

why me wrote:Is the lds church so bad for people? No.
Seems it was bad for your ex wife and kids.
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LDS apostle Elder Jeffrey R. Holland was recently quoted in a meeting with young single adults in the Dallas area in regards to unprecedented growth in the number of new stake creations. This meeting occurred last Sunday, April 24th. A video of the conference can be found here. Elder Holland begins to discuss stake growth around 54 minutes into the video. Here are some quotes that I found particularly interesting:
"[Growth] is the single greatest problem we have."
"We are reeling under the implications of the growth that we have in this Church."
"A week ago Thursday we created 15 stakes...the week before it was 12." [in reference to temple meetings at Church Headquarters]
"We are talking about double-digit stakes every week of our lives."
"It is like a bucking bronco."

"In the middle of all that occasionally, rarely...we dissolve a stake. That is so unusual..it doesn't happen very often."

http://ldschurchgrowth.blogspot.co.uk/2 ... -week.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrYpRzi6xtY

"...like a bucking bronco." 0.49%
"...double-digit stakes every week of our lives." (That would be a minimum of 520 new stakes every year)

Gospel Principles Chapter 31: Honesty
Lying is intentionally deceiving others. Bearing false witness is one form of lying. The Lord gave this commandment to the children of Israel: “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour” (Exodus 20:16). Jesus also taught this when He was on earth (see Matthew 19:18). There are many other forms of lying. When we speak untruths, we are guilty of lying. We can also intentionally deceive others by a gesture or a look, by silence, or by telling only part of the truth. Whenever we lead people in any way to believe something that is not true, we are not being honest.

https://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-princ ... y?lang=eng

Jeffrey R Holland is blatantly lying.
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I have a question wrote:

Why is Satan always clearly winning?


Go and ask him. However, lets looks at the state of America and what is happening there:

Suicides are rampant, drugs are rampant, violence is rampant, people are getting sicker, and much more. Not very good. People are making bad choices. I don't see the lds church as a source of evil. Nor do I find it necessary to be critical of it. I have two children that are doing just fine in it. I am very proud of them and how they are as human beings. So, I am grateful to the lds church.
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why me wrote:
I have a question wrote:

Why is Satan always clearly winning?


Go and ask him. However, lets looks at the state of America and what is happening there:

Suicides are rampant, drugs are rampant, violence is rampant, people are getting sicker, and much more. Not very good. People are making bad choices. I don't see the lds church as a source of evil. Nor do I find it necessary to be critical of it. I have two children that are doing just fine in it. I am very proud of them and how they are as human beings. So, I am grateful to the lds church.


It's Incredible How Much Safer America Has Become Since The 1980s
http://uk.businessinsider.com/fbi-crime-report-shows-america-is-still-getting-safer-2015-1

There’s never been a safer time to be a kid in America
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/04/14/theres-never-been-a-safer-time-to-be-a-kid-in-america/?utm_term=.ce71181a4fcf

What’s tremendously aggravating is that Giuliani, and, in turn, the GOP, speak about making America safe “again.” He said that Trump “will make America, like the president I worked for, Ronald Reagan, once again be the shining City on the Hill.” But here’s the thing: During Reagan’s presidency, which lasted from 1981 to 1989, America was way more dangerous than it is today. In that era, there was an average of 20,377 murders a year in the U.S. There were 14,249 in 2014, the latest year with official FBI data. Meanwhile, the U.S. population has grown from 229 million to 310 million, a 35 percent increase, driving down the per capita rates. There’s also never been a safer time to be a child in America, and while an average of 101 police officers were intentionally killed every year during Reagan’s presidency, the annual number is just 62 under Obama — the lowest recorded amount.
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/07/psychology-why-americans-afraid-low-crime-levels.html

You have turned being wrong into a personal addiction. Get help.
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