Mormons ignoring Jesus as quoted in the gospel of Matthew

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Re: Mormons ignoring Jesus as quoted in the gospel of Matthew

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Morley wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:29 pm
What's so dangerous about a God bounded by ethics?
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:41 pm
A God bound by whose ethics?
His own expressed ethics and laws that he delivers to humankind.
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Re: Mormons ignoring Jesus as quoted in the gospel of Matthew

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:18 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:14 pm


What about a church that allows “some adult” to “F” your grandson, retain their membership, and avoid being handed over to law enforcement? You good with that? Apparently you are.

- Doc
Would you like to take a stab at the four questions I asked (you can access them in my previous post to Marcus) instead of going for a derail or turning on your fog machine?

Would you consider yourself to be an absolutist? Do you think there’s a time and a place for situational ethics?

How do you dovetail the two?

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I just want it on record MG is ok with an adult damned a kid, retaining their membership, and not being handed over to law enforcement. His ethics, and by extension the church’s ethics aren’t “situational”, they’re deplorable and evil.

- Doc
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Re: Mormons ignoring Jesus as quoted in the gospel of Matthew

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Morley wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:03 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:02 pm
So if I walked in on some adult assaulting my grandson (or any child for that matter) and bashed that person's head in with my cast iron frying pan and they die I’m as guilty (and wrong) as any mass shooter, or rapist murderer?
Yes, you'd be guilty--but not as guilty as some mass murderer. That's why we have different gradients for different kinds of killing. These gradients are written into law--even the Old Testament Bronze Age laws given to Israel by God.
So there are situational ethics. And they make sense. We have to determine motives, etc.

Do you find it THAT far fetched that God does the same?

I think you are really straining at a gnat to try and make God into an absolute absolutist.

How far do you want to take this?

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Morley wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:03 pm

Though the question is not particularly relevant…
I think it is.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:12 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:18 pm


Would you like to take a stab at the four questions I asked (you can access them in my previous post to Marcus) instead of going for a derail or turning on your fog machine?

Would you consider yourself to be an absolutist? Do you think there’s a time and a place for situational ethics?

How do you dovetail the two?

Regards,
MG
I just want it on record MG is ok with an adult damned a kid, retaining their membership, and not being handed over to law enforcement. His ethics, and by extension the church’s ethics aren’t “situational”, they’re deplorable and evil.

- Doc
I'm also starting to suspect he is one of those believers who justifies god condoned slavery as the product of its time. I have 0 use for a god who says shellfish 'bad', slavery 'good', and the justifiers of such, horrify me.
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Re: Mormons ignoring Jesus as quoted in the gospel of Matthew

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Morley wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:03 pm

Now, to show you can reciprocate, please answer ¥akaSteelhead's question about slavery.
¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:23 pm
MG would you volunteer to be someone's slave under the guidelines of the Old Testament?
As I told him, I would be happy to look at this question if he answers the two questions I asked him first.

Deal?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:12 pm

I just want it on record MG is ok with an adult damned a kid, retaining their membership, and not being handed over to law enforcement.
- Doc
Nope. Not true. Expunge the record.

I think you need to check your grammar though.

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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:14 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:12 pm


I just want it on record MG is ok with an adult damned a kid, retaining their membership, and not being handed over to law enforcement. His ethics, and by extension the church’s ethics aren’t “situational”, they’re deplorable and evil.

- Doc
I'm also starting to suspect he is one of those believers who justifies god condoned slavery as the product of its time. I have 0 use for a god who says shellfish 'bad', slavery 'good', and the justifiers of such, horrify me.
Slavery was a product of its time. Has been throughout human history. Folks have even brought God into it and made Him into a provocateur.

They had their reasons. Not that I agree with them at all.

I’d still be interested in having you answer my two questions.

C’mon. 🙂

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Morley wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:11 pm
Morley wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:29 pm
What's so dangerous about a God bounded by ethics?
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:41 pm
A God bound by whose ethics?
His own expressed ethics and laws that he delivers to humankind.
Like thou shall not kill?

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Re: Mormons ignoring Jesus as quoted in the gospel of Matthew

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Like I said -justifying 'god blessing slavery, and describing how to go about it'.


Horrific.
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