Prophet Joseph F. Smith Was A Violent Man Who Abused His Wife, Both Mentally and Physically

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Prophet Joseph F. Smith Was A Violent Man Who Abused His Wife, Both Mentally and Physically

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Loving, devoted Mormon prophet or rage-prone abuser? Yes to both, says a new biography of Joseph F. Smith. -- Jana Riess

I've always wondered why JFS is a hero to Louis Midgley, DCP and other Mopologists. Now I think I know.

Jana discusses Stephen Taysom's new biography of JFS, "Like a Fiery Meteor." It certainly paints a completely different picture of JFS than we learn in Church.
An entire lesson in the manual was devoted to “The Wrongful Path of Abuse,” quoting JFS at length about how violence was “unthinkable” and praising him as a “tender and gentle man who expressed sorrow at any kind of abuse. He understood that violence would beget violence, and his own life was an honest expression of compassion and patience, warmth and understanding.”

The lesson’s claim is not wholly untrue, as historian Stephen Taysom points out in the Afterword of his monumental biography of JFS, “Like a Fiery Meteor.” But it’s certainly selective, since JFS admitted in divorce affidavits to beating his first wife, Levira, in the 1860s; the only part he disputed was whether he’d attacked her with a rope or a small stick. He also verbally abused and threatened her, at one point saying he ought to drill a hole in her head and fill it with manure.

JFS is on record for beating a neighbor almost to death in 1873. There were other stories too, with less clear evidence, including a possible beating of his little sister’s teacher when he was still in his early teens. JFS was a turbulent man who admitted that his temper was the worst part of him and that the only man on earth he ever feared was himself.
https://religionnews.com/2023/08/14/jos ... on-leader/
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So what you're saying is DCP should make an Interpreter feature film on him?
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drumdude wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:03 am
So what you're saying is DCP should make an Interpreter feature film on him?
I can see it now:

"The JFS Story: He Liked His Beer The Same Way He Liked His Violence, Domestic"
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Chalk up another win for the Hitchens File!
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Smith’s drive to enforce order included an unbending emphasis on sexual purity. He viewed masturbation as a terrible evil (though he couldn’t bring himself to say the word) and believed some Victorian physicians who argued that circumcision could prevent it. So in 1896 JFS arranged for seven of his sons to be circumcised, even though they were far past infancy, then ranging in age from seven to 23. In his mind, whatever pain they experienced from the procedure would be worth it if they could only avoid sin.
https://religionnews.com/2023/08/14/jos ... on-leader/

Today we’d likely call that child abuse.
On April 5, 1859, Smith married his sixteen-year-old cousin, Levira Annette Clark Smith, daughter of Samuel H. Smith. When Joseph F. Smith left on his mission to England the next year, his companion for the journey was Levira's brother, Samuel. Smith and Levira had no children. Seven years later (1866), Brigham Young directed Smith to take a plural wife. Levira gave her permission and was present at the marriage of Smith and Julina Lambson (who became the mother of future president Joseph Fielding Smith) -- a longtime friend of hers. Levira became disenchanted with the plural marriage arrangement and in 1867 they agreed to separate. Levira moved to California and divorced him.
Well done Levira. Escaping an abusive marriage isn’t easy.
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Here’s how the Church briefly presents him…
Smith married 5 women and had 48 children, 5 of whom were adopted. His family was characterized by close, supportive relationships.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... eng#title1

Here’s a list of his wives…
Levira Annette Clark Smith ​(m. 1859; div. 1867)​
Julina Lambson ​(m. 1866)​
Sarah Ellen Richards ​(m. 1868; d. 1915)​
Edna Lambson ​(m. 1871)​
Alice Ann Kimball ​(m. 1883)​
Mary Taylor Schwartz ​(m. 1884)​

Can you spot the deliberate “mistake” in the Church’s recounting of his marriages? That’s right, he married 6 women, not 5. The Church is trying to expunge the memory of Levira from the record. You simply cannot trust the Church to tell the truth.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:33 am
I've always wondered why JFS is a hero to Louis Midgley, DCP and other Mopologists. Now I think I know.
So Midgley is attracted to the tendency toward bullying and violence? That could explain dancing to Mack the Knife.
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