Inverse Correlation that Defies Religionists' Claims

[sock puppet]

Since 1990, in the U.S. the rate of violent crime has dropped to half of what it was.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191 ... ince-1990/

Over that same period, the rate of religious non-believers has jumped from 8% to 29%.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/20 ... t-decades/

Yet we still hear religionists beat the drum that "morality" comes from God, or belief in/fear of God. The data suggests that as belief in America goes down, there is an upward swing in Americans treating each better.

Now, doesn't that cause a 'stupor of thought'?

[drumdude]

Since 1990, in the U.S. the rate of violent crime has dropped to half of what it was.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191 ... ince-1990/

Over that same period, the rate of religious non-believers has jumped from 8% to 29%.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/20 ... t-decades/

Yet we still hear religionists beat the drum that "morality" comes from God, or belief in/fear of God. The data suggests that as belief in America goes down, there is an upward swing in Americans treating each better.

Now, doesn't that cause a 'stupor of thought'?

I think the "correlation does not imply causation" argument applies here. But these data do seem to suggest that a less believing America is compatible with a safer America.

[sock puppet]

Since 1990, in the U.S. the rate of violent crime has dropped to half of what it was.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191 ... ince-1990/

Over that same period, the rate of religious non-believers has jumped from 8% to 29%.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/20 ... t-decades/

Yet we still hear religionists beat the drum that "morality" comes from God, or belief in/fear of God. The data suggests that as belief in America goes down, there is an upward swing in Americans treating each better.

Now, doesn't that cause a 'stupor of thought'?

I think the "correlation does not imply causation" argument applies here. But these data do seem to suggest that a less believing America is compatible with a safer America.

I don't think there is causation. The religionists claim there is--fear of God causes one to behave better. This data undercuts that assertion.

[hauslern]

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/media/archi ... 674469.pdf

Can you be good without God?

Former Mormon and sociologist Ryan Cragun talks about the secular changes in many societies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m6EQLc-7ek