General Authority says the Church and its members are against the death penalty

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I Have Questions wrote:
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Questions, I can certainly see how you can see these implications in the comments. Curious I read through the link and there was no mention of capitol punishment. There was no mention of firing squad or other methods in Utah law.

Perhaps the speaker was more interested in people's stability in troubled times. Perhaps directly addressing capitol punishment was a step too far now, ever?
He implicitly includes any and all methods of capitol punishment by stating “Life and death are sacred,” he said, “and it must be left to God to give or to take away.”
Hasn’t God already spoken by saying forgiveness of some sins requires the shedding of blood?
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It is my hope that Governor Cox will retract some of his statements regarding the pursuit of the death penalty in the CK murder case.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Sep 29, 2025 12:47 am
I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 6:56 am
He implicitly includes any and all methods of capitol punishment by stating “Life and death are sacred,” he said, “and it must be left to God to give or to take away.”
Hasn’t God already spoken by saying forgiveness of some sins requires the shedding of blood?
Some people might claim that God has said that. But from what I can see His last word on the matter seems to be “Thou shall not kill”.
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I think the Church has cooled its jets on the death penalty, now that the spilling of blood has been taken off the table. Now you will no longer have squadrons of bishops vying to be included on the execution squad and hoping to be the one to receive the working bullet.

I am not even sure the Department of Corrections would recognize the right of LDS bishops to be chosen for the executioner's role. Utah has drastically changed since the execution of Gary Gilmore.
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Moksha wrote:
Fri Oct 03, 2025 4:17 am
I think the Church has cooled its jets on the death penalty, now that the spilling of blood has been taken off the table. Now you will no longer have squadrons of bishops vying to be included on the execution squad and hoping to be the one to receive the working bullet.

I am not even sure the Department of Corrections would recognize the right of LDS bishops to be chosen for the executioner's role. Utah has drastically changed since the execution of Gary Gilmore.
Not living in Utah I was not up on current state rules so checked Google. It was reported that the firing squad is still possible if requested before a specific date or material for lethal injection not available timely. Capitol punishment is a current possibility.

I have not heard of bishops participating. (1860s or 70s?)

Has there been any step back from the announced intention to seek the death penalty? Perhaps there will be as emotions cool.
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"Capitol" : a noun, meaning the chief place of a city, from Capitolium, the name of the hill in Rome on which the most important temples were built. From the oblique stem of Latin caput (“head”) + -ō (noun-forming suffix) or -ōlus (“-ole”, diminutive suffix) + -ium (suffix forming place names).

"Capital" when used as an adjective refers to a punishment that is as fatal as the loss of one's head , as in Latin "capitis damnare" "to condemn someone to death". "Capitis" = "of the head", where "caput" head refers metaphorically to someone's life.

Just saying.
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Chap wrote:
Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:14 pm
"Capitol" : a noun, meaning the chief place of a city, from Capitolium, the name of the hill in Rome on which the most important temples were built. From the oblique stem of Latin caput (“head”) + -ō (noun-forming suffix) or -ōlus (“-ole”, diminutive suffix) + -ium (suffix forming place names).

"Capital" when used as an adjective refers to a punishment that is as fatal as the loss of one's head , as in Latin "capitis damnare" "to condemn someone to death". "Capitis" = "of the head", where "caput" head refers metaphorically to someone's life.

Just saying.
With a bit of embarrassment I realize I had not noticed the difference so can thank you Chap for an interesting clarification. ( I like quite a few Americans made it through school without learning Latin)
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